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this spoke radio for the masses yeah man

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listening all around the world all

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every night on the show that all things

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they say they say that all things happen

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that happens you just got to work

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my family was stunned beyond what is

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fair all of us and I'm gonna say this I

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faked it okay we faked it when these

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things happen and you know the the big

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stuff the bad stuff and we faked it and

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we hide it you know life is good

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going on and you deal with things

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privately and rather than try and do

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that tonight on this show to act like

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nothing happened today well that's just

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not right this is not fair so I'm

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letting you know that we were pummeled

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okay and it was something that I'm just

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to know is that I'm here and I'm on this

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microphone and if I laugh my way through

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tonight and I did mention in anything

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about it that's not really cool I feel

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deception that's not cool because

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including here and if I would have done

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that tonight which I could have then you

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don't understand the reality of the

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this family of ours the fade to black

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family the fader knots that give Rita

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it okay and when life just is not fair

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because I'll say this today when I woke

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a bright beautiful day everything was

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great and then it unraveled and it

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cool the thought of doing the show

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tonight and not mentioning this is not

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cool so what do you do

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audience in this family that allows us

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to just do it and get things done

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punch back that's what you have to do

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with me I know that you are so I am

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going to laugh I'm gonna have the best

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Tracy Garbett is here I am so excited

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about this and it's it's what I need and

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to Rita it's going to be a great show

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junk food I'm getting junk food and I

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okay all right let's move on let's move

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on I want to thank all of you every

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single one of you for being here for us

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okay all right

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August 9th through the 12th let's go to

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Seoul Tech gathering calm we've got the

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most amazing weekend lined up for all of

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weekend long we're gonna create those

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memories and friendships that are gonna

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last an entire lifetime come and join us

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our special guest my friend my guest all

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weekend hanging out with you

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we're gonna do night watches we're going

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to be teaching we've got classroom setup

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calm go and get your tickets now it's

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you know delayed for whatever reason go

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and take care of business now soult a

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gathering calm then a week later

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August 17th through the 19th I'll be in

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that's how we broadcast every single

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night with that let's get this show

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crackin happy birthday to today

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JJ Abrams 52 years old right Star Wars

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Star Trek fringe lost super 8 right moon

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shot and how about a time travel series

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11/22/63 did you guys see that it was a

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like I don't know I can't remember how

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many parts it was but it was absolutely

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amazing 11/22/63 JJ Abrams is clearly in

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our corner he's 52 today

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happy birthday JJ Abrams okay on this

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day in history in 1829 it went down in

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Genoa Italy English scientist James

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Smithson dies after a long illness

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leaving behind a will with a very

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peculiar footnote in his will he said in

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the event that is only nephew died

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without any heirs Smithson decreed that

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the whole of his estate would go to the

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United States of America to found at

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Washington under the name of the

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Smithsonian Institution an establishment

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for the increase in diffusion of

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knowledge Smith's ins curious bequest to

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a country that he had never visited

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aroused significant attentions on both

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sides of the Atlantic and continues to

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this day it happened on this day OTD in

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1829 Fader fact here you go a tomato

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plant was found on the volcanic island

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surtsey off the southern coast of

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Iceland it had grown from the feces of a

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scientist that took a dump that it's

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it's a fader fact it's vetted it really

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happened you should go look at Surtsey

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as su RT sey go look at it google maps

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right there southern coast of Iceland

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middle of the frozen Atlantic Ocean on a

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volcanic island a tomato plant was found

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yeah how did it get there well I just

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told you go look at it

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there's nothing on that island except

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for a volcano and the tomato plant the

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tomato plant was removed by the way it

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was bagged and tagged tonight Tracy

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Garbett is here yes I'm gonna introduce

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you her to you and the world tonight and

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her story her education her life is an

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amazing one and we're gonna discuss

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experiencer and contactee research we're

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gonna discuss her life story how she got

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here and how all of it is affected by

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these days of disclosure and then we're

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gonna close out this show with another

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special guest but you're gonna have to

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wait it's good to be amazing tomorrow

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night is another Fator night without Jon

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Rappoport and his no more fake newsroom

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live but we will have open lines all

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night long now I posted an article oh

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you have to excuse me I'm working

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through this okay I need you guys to

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work through this with me there you go a

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couple of weeks ago I posted an article

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over on on stellar about Big Brother

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about how big brother is listening now I

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talked about it on this show posted the

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article I went over to coast to coast

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and and talked about it very publicly

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about a conversation that I had had on a

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phone my iPhone with a friend and that

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phone call and conversation consisted

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about a conversation about cameras and

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lenses right okay you guys know what I'm

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talking about

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and those camera and lenses were

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purchased by another friend of ours

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friend of this show actually and very

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expensive very nice lenses and then that

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conversation was about us a shooting

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video and a documentary that we're gonna

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do up at ESET e-force all tech all right

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and so that's why that conversation even

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happened at all it was a short

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three-minute conversation about this

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documentary and filming and cameras and

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things up at

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city ranch well no big deal right you

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know and I want to be clear that I'm not

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a photographer I'm not I'm not a video

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guy okay my video and photography

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happens on my phone that's that's the

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existence of my participation in it I'm

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an audio specialist okay

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I know audio and it's technology as well

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as anyone on the planet I can hang with

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anybody on this planet about audio and

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it's technology a very serious knowledge

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and bragging rights in this area and

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I've spent my entire life doing just

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that

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audio in all forms right but photography

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no I'm I'm just not into it

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I like looking at it but I don't

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research it I don't follow it and like I

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said my it's my camera on my iPhone

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that's as far as I go all right that's

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good enough for me

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well what goes with that and again I

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need to be clear is that I've never

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searched clicked watched or otherwise

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done anything I'm the net concerting a

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camera or a lens ever as I as I

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presented in my article about this the

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next morning my internet feeds were

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flooded with advertising about cameras

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and lenses it was everywhere and it

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freaked me out because I found it so

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strange because I had never really

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talked about it you know I was confused

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why would this advertising just show up

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seemingly out of nowhere it was only

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that one little three-minute

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conversation that happened the day

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before it could that be it could could

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that be what triggered it and if it is

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what triggered it

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then it's definite proof that someone or

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something is listening now they

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Zuckerberg and Google and everybody else

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say

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they are not they are not listening well

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I call BS last night on fade to black

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I had Jason Louvre on the show we were

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talking about technology AIA our Google

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Facebook the NSA I'll say it again the

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NSA etc and I mentioned last night

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speaking with Jason the article and my

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little experience with the camera in the

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lens advertising and you remember

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Jason's response well Yeah right yeah

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they're listening all right they have AI

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that could convert words into text and

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know what you're into and boom

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advertising you know and it was

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confirmation right well walls today

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while surfing and researching for the

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show tonight

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another camera ad popped up now and and

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I freaked I freaked

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it's right there right now I posted

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earlier today on Twitter a shot of the

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ad now what I did do today is I went

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back and I and I just took confirm all

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of this I go back and I'm like going to

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different websites I'm just going around

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I went to CNN I went to Fox I went to

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BBC I went to al-jazeera you know and

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all of these are Adsense and Google ads

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you know the feed those right but those

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ads follow you is who jump around on the

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net and and I went to other places too

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as well the ads followed me so I grabbed

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screenshots I grabbed screenshots they

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were everywhere today and what is weird

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is that to prove to myself that there

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was something going on right you know

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and to me it's really scary but to prove

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to myself that I'm not bonkers I haven't

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clicked on any of the advertising

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haven't done it since it happened two

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weeks ago to through to today and I stay

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haven't right I haven't done any

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searches I haven't done anything camera

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or a camera related nothing I didn't

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want to trigger any BOTS and and the ads

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kind of went away and I kind of forgot

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about it until last night right when I

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did that little mention to Jason about

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how this could be pulled off but today

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like magic

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I've got cameras and lenses on my net

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and it's not cool now this is the deal

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I'm gonna figure this out I'm going to

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get to the bottom of it and when I do I

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will stop at nothing to expose this

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technology to the world this goes way

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beyond anything that is acceptable and

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what makes it worse is that Facebook and

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Google and everybody else say that they

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don't do it and they are lying they're

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lying

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I have all the proof that I need big

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brother is listening this is not a joke

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and I am NOT crazy and nobody is gonna

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tell me any different I am speaking

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about my own experience this isn't

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somebody else telling me about what is

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happening to them or that they heard

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from a friend that this is going on or

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that they read on some blog somewhere

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that this is happening I am being very

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serious here I need you to take another

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look at that image do it when I hit this

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break I'll post some of the other

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screenshots that I grabbed you know what

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I posted today was taken on my computer

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at 2:36 p.m. and the conversation was

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with Jason on this show last night not

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on my phone on this show which opens up

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a whole nother conversation think about

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what I am saying phones

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I guess we're forced to get it okay

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they're listening whether it's a phone

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conversation or you're surfing

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they are listening it doesn't matter if

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it's Android or iPhone they are

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listening I've heard that Facebook and

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Facebook Messenger if it's installed on

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your phone messengers there by default

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you can turn it off but you can't you

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can't uninstall it right so there's that

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part we have Siri that microphone is

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always on so phones I get it Smart TVs

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again understood the Internet of Things

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around your house ditto with that too

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but this was live on the show last night

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that is freaking me out

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and again we have various VPNs and

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things that we run with with IP

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protocols and and we hide things and and

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we have to I'm always running from

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hackers and people that want to bring

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this show down the amount of attempts

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per day on our servers and my email

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servers attempts per day a passwords

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number in the thousands and it's it's

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not any one person it's it's a variety

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of attacks so we are very protective

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here so that that's another layer of

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weirdness for me

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I haven't clicked you need to understand

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I haven't clicked searched I've only

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thought about and spoken about this and

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last night it was live on the show it

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wasn't on my phone I am just blown away

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so now that I know I am convinced I have

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the proof that's it I know that this is

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going on how what when where and what

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the technology is I am going to find out

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I will I what Zuckerberg said last month

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in Washington DC was clearly a lie and

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not the truth and for everybody else out

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there and that goes with Google and

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YouTube and

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adsense and all of the other advertising

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companies and the the software and the

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cleverness and how they are doing this

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it is it is going to get exposed I will

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find out and it I am going to just

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scream to the world and I will make sure

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I will make sure that it is exposed

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there's something going on and and and

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again to be clear if I was told that it

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is happening and they are doing it no

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harm no foul

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we know that it's going on if you are

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it's Tracy Garvin now I've been talking

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about this all week long I'm gonna

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introduce you to Tracy tonight and to

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the rest of the world

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Tracy earned her bachelor's degree in

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psychology in international studies at

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the University of South Florida st.

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Petersburg in 2016

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she founded and served as president for

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Big Sisters of psychology becoming a

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widely recognized leader who inspired

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many students on their self a journey

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discovery now Tracy is a professionally

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trained remote viewer whose work has

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been evaluated by several leading

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figures in the field including Paul

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elder and skip Atwater

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many of her remote views have been

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regarded as exceptional including a

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striking example of accurately

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perceiving a location 2600 miles away

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through the eyes and sense organ of

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another person tracy has also had a

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number of direct contact experiences

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with apparent non-human intelligences

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all of which she has carefully recorded

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and one of which occurred while present

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with another witness and we will discuss

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this tonight too as well she views her

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contact experiences enter word on remote

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viewing as an outgrowth and extension of

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her lifelong spiritual and philosophical

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endeavors these include extensive

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training at the renowned Monroe

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Institute in Virginia as well as the

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rampa School of Enlightenment and I

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would like to welcome for the first time

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to fade to black

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Tracy garbage Tracey good evening how

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are you hi Jimmy I'm great thanks so

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much for having me on

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Tracy you get the first-time guests

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disclaimer

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tonight let's get I know you've been

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looking forward to it so let's just get

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it out of the way all right it's just

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you and I sitting on my couch having a

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conversation as friends where the

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conversation starts it starts where it

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ends it ends but we're gonna end as

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friends there you go

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you ready sounds good yeah let's do it

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so excited and there's a few things that

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I kind of want to get out of the way the

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first is this and then we're going to go

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backwards but I want to start a little

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bit in the present tense

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which is you you did a TED talk and the

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and and everybody can go and and look

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that up now if you wish I didn't average

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how his head in advance but you did a

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TED talk and which which I thought was

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quite amazing but the audience and this

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is what is the fascinating part the

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audience has no idea about remote

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viewing or ET or experience or and they

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don't have any idea and my point is this

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you never know who you are gonna meet

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who you walk past during the day or see

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at a TED talk that could be an

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experiencer they come in all sizes

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shapes and flavors don't they oh god

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that is so true that is so true I think

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about that when I get on planes and you

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know sometimes you talk to the person

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beside you sometimes you don't and I

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think sometimes you know that person

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could be a contact detour you know that

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person could have gone through something

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so unusual every once in a while you

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know think this and I'll get up the

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nerve to ask them and sort of dig in and

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you know and sometimes you don't but

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you're so right you just never know

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what's going on in people's lives and

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the way that you are perceived I mean

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for instance when you get up there at

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your TED talk right and you go now

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before I get started you know I remote

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viewing and I think I've met et let's

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continue now right the perception is

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immediately changed

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for you is that fair oh yeah absolutely

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I feel like especially in academia

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because that was the context that I did

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that particular TEDx talk in yeah I

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don't know what would have happened my

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credibility would have been gone just

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like that for one thing and it's not

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fair is it no it's very unfortunate but

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it's it's true in a lot of cases

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particularly that context and you know

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out there in society yeah for sure

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now that it is it is so let's let's back

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up a little bit here bachelor's degree

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in psychology right a pretty solid CV in

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and background but did you have anything

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that you may have kept in the closet

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growing up did you have any experiences

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what were your parents like I did have

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experiences if you're talking our type

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of experiences I did have unusual things

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happening as a child my parents didn't

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really know other than the fact that I

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was had this debilitating fear of the

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dark that they sort of had to deal with

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and I had that thrid as well my parents

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as far as what they were like my father

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I always jokingly say was the epitome of

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the son this bold charismatic man and my

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mother was the epitome of the moon she

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was she is intuitive quiet gentle

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sensitive and and so and Canadian and

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Canadian that's right very true

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yes grew up in Canada spent almost my

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entire life in Canada and but they

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weren't I mean if you're if you're

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asking did they really know what was

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going on with me in terms of experiences

775
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:33,970
is that what you're asking well there's

776
00:43:39,570 --> 00:43:36,730
that part we always need to discuss that

777
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I mean these are these things too

778
00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:42,280
you discussed with your parents or like

779
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I said is this stuff that you kept in

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the closet

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00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:48,430
okay I see well I pretty much I would

782
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say I kept it in the closet for the most

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part and when things started really

784
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turning up in early adulthood you know

785
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the frequency was are really increasing

786
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:06,730
I didn't tell I don't think I told my

787
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:09,760
mother right away but because they kept

788
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:11,650
happening more and more and more there

789
00:44:13,620 --> 00:44:13,030
was a point where I started to bring her

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in on it

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and it was just a sort of a slow process

792
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:21,520
of warming her up I guess I was always

793
00:44:26,970 --> 00:44:23,470
aware that I needed to sort of maintain

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00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:26,980
my credibility even with my my parents I

795
00:44:31,290 --> 00:44:29,440
never ever spoke to my dad about

796
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:31,300
anything but my mother is a little more

797
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:33,580
open you know being that sort of more

798
00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:39,010
intuitive sensitive type she when I

799
00:44:44,670 --> 00:44:41,140
would talk about things she could sort

800
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:44,680
of relate and bringing it closer up to

801
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:47,440
current day my mother has had some

802
00:44:56,610 --> 00:44:51,310
experiences not sort of contact with et

803
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,620
or but more a paranormal visitation from

804
00:45:02,340 --> 00:44:59,680
my father after he passed so she's far

805
00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:02,350
more open my mother is watching ancient

806
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:05,590
aliens now so we came a long way you

807
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:07,570
know I can talk to her about pretty much

808
00:45:12,930 --> 00:45:10,720
everything but it was a slow slow build

809
00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:12,940
so I was kind of in the closet for a

810
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:16,750
while and but but I'm in a good place

811
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,310
with my mom now I can talk to her about

812
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:21,180
anything is she listening right now Oh

813
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:24,310
she'll probably listen to it later okay

814
00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:27,760
this is a little too late I'm just

815
00:45:35,070 --> 00:45:30,040
wondering what is gonna get disclosed

816
00:45:37,350 --> 00:45:35,080
tonight that will be fine it'll be fine

817
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:37,360
she she knows like some of the things

818
00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:41,290
I'll tell you tonight there was a time

819
00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:43,150
where I didn't really talk to her that

820
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:46,030
much and when some of these experiences

821
00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:50,410
happened I called my mother first thing

822
00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:52,060
in the morning because I I knew

823
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:53,230
something was

824
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:56,800
happening to me and my natural reaction

825
00:46:02,190 --> 00:45:59,440
was to go to my mother did you start -

826
00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:02,200
did you did you start to research did

827
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,119
you start to look into this and maybe

828
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:06,640
collect some books and and go down that

829
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:10,690
road yes I have books all around me I

830
00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:13,090
sort of had the history the historical

831
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:15,460
collection from the beginning what I was

832
00:46:20,099 --> 00:46:17,380
looking into sort of spiritual

833
00:46:22,410 --> 00:46:20,109
philosophies and mediumship and more

834
00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:22,420
paranormal and all these types of realms

835
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:25,750
and sort of the progression from there

836
00:46:31,170 --> 00:46:29,530
so yeah I was into books videos teachers

837
00:46:33,150 --> 00:46:31,180
I was going to different retreats

838
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:33,160
anything I could get my hands on I

839
00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:36,490
really wanted to know I knew something

840
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:39,580
was interacting with me and it kept

841
00:46:49,410 --> 00:46:47,440
changing and all I could do was I keep

842
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:49,420
going to the buffet that was available

843
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:52,390
out there on paranormal and these types

844
00:46:59,940 --> 00:46:56,530
of things and you know try things ponder

845
00:47:04,849 --> 00:46:59,950
them build theories try to corroborate

846
00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:04,859
them you know right and how did that

847
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:09,580
conflict or not with with psychology and

848
00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:15,359
your education well

849
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:18,280
psychology kind of stays away from a lot

850
00:47:23,609 --> 00:47:19,990
of this doesn't it especially yeah

851
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:23,619
exactly yeah psychology is all about

852
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:25,690
pathology and telling a psychologist

853
00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:27,490
about a lot of these things there's a

854
00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:30,460
there's actually an element of caution

855
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:33,700
and potential danger there but I I

856
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:36,250
should qualify that there's also safety

857
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:39,760
there if something actually is wrong you

858
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:41,950
know something if there is schizophrenia

859
00:47:47,310 --> 00:47:45,310
or there that you know disassociative

860
00:47:49,380 --> 00:47:47,320
identity disorder or something else

861
00:47:52,859 --> 00:47:49,390
going on yeah then psychology is a good

862
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:52,869
thing but as far as my experiences no it

863
00:47:58,170 --> 00:47:53,950
didn't help at all

864
00:48:01,920 --> 00:47:58,180
it though it was dead ends it was the

865
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:01,930
only form of psychology that is

866
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:06,490
inclusive and whole a more holistic and

867
00:48:12,930 --> 00:48:09,369
cognizes these parts are transpersonal

868
00:48:14,550 --> 00:48:12,940
psychology psychology that you know goes

869
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:14,560
beyond the personality and depth

870
00:48:19,050 --> 00:48:17,020
psychology which is sort of similar but

871
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:19,060
where where I took a lot of my

872
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:20,890
psychology here on the East Coast in

873
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:23,710
Florida they was almost never even

874
00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:26,110
mentioned a lot of the the young

875
00:48:31,890 --> 00:48:29,560
students in my class had never heard of

876
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,900
these before and you know it's funny

877
00:48:37,230 --> 00:48:34,000
because I had experiences happening I

878
00:48:38,850 --> 00:48:37,240
made it a point in every single class

879
00:48:42,050 --> 00:48:38,860
that I was in when we introduced

880
00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:42,060
ourselves to say these were my real

881
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:44,680
passions in psychology even though they

882
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:46,450
weren't being taught here and then it

883
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:48,610
would be natural for these young 20 year

884
00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:51,490
olds to ask what is that and I kind of

885
00:48:57,090 --> 00:48:53,470
had this um you know I was going through

886
00:49:00,590 --> 00:48:57,100
my own exploration but I also was always

887
00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:00,600
conscious of throwing out these seeds

888
00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:05,020
for these young folks knowing like you

889
00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:06,940
were saying in the beginning you never

890
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:08,680
know what people are going through I'm

891
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:10,210
thinking that while I'm looking at them

892
00:49:15,060 --> 00:49:12,730
all the time how many of them are having

893
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:15,070
contact experiences or things that are

894
00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:18,250
scaring them or even sleep paralysis and

895
00:49:23,940 --> 00:49:19,600
they don't know what it is and it's not

896
00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:23,950
being acknowledged so it was a fun thing

897
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:26,980
for me I kind of was building into my

898
00:49:33,090 --> 00:49:30,250
psychology degree what I wanted by

899
00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:33,100
reaching out to these younger students

900
00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:36,040
is interesting well and did you find it

901
00:49:44,730 --> 00:49:42,190
strange that you know your your life

902
00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:44,740
nobody can take that from you nobody can

903
00:49:50,550 --> 00:49:48,580
tell you that it's no either it's not

904
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:50,560
happening or it's not real or it's not

905
00:49:57,630 --> 00:49:54,910
no that's your own experiences and your

906
00:50:02,780 --> 00:49:57,640
own truth and then defined it not

907
00:50:06,330 --> 00:50:02,790
addressed in academia that it's either

908
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:06,340
denial on academia spart or they don't

909
00:50:12,570 --> 00:50:10,000
do they choose not to address for

910
00:50:14,070 --> 00:50:12,580
whatever reason and you're going through

911
00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:14,080
that because you're seeing both sides of

912
00:50:20,819 --> 00:50:18,580
the fence yeah it's very frustrating I

913
00:50:24,569 --> 00:50:20,829
mean the closest you can get to it

914
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:24,579
there is a little bit psychology of

915
00:50:31,019 --> 00:50:28,210
religion had a chapter on mysticism and

916
00:50:33,180 --> 00:50:31,029
it would you know sort of dabble

917
00:50:36,809 --> 00:50:33,190
slightly but yes it was very very

918
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:36,819
frustrating and you know I can tell you

919
00:50:41,999 --> 00:50:39,730
a story later on but the school flat-out

920
00:50:44,339 --> 00:50:42,009
rejected something I was doing in my own

921
00:50:50,089 --> 00:50:44,349
organization as soon as the word UFO

922
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:50,099
came on yeah there isn't a chapter on

923
00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:54,400
UFO contactees in psychology 101 you

924
00:51:02,240 --> 00:50:57,220
know a primer no I don't think that that

925
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:02,250
happens and I understand that and then

926
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,049
what I wanted to ask you next is the

927
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:09,839
experiences that you were going through

928
00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:12,400
up to that point I'm talking about

929
00:51:22,170 --> 00:51:17,500
college were they physical were they in

930
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:22,180
a dream state how channeling you know

931
00:51:28,650 --> 00:51:24,490
however how were how are they happening

932
00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:28,660
for you honestly there's such a huge

933
00:51:34,109 --> 00:51:31,720
variety of things that happened some

934
00:51:36,299 --> 00:51:34,119
things happened in a waking State they

935
00:51:38,009 --> 00:51:36,309
seemed I'm just kind of trying to go

936
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:38,019
chronologically in my mind to answer

937
00:51:41,789 --> 00:51:39,609
this question sure

938
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:41,799
yeah I think they sort of started off

939
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:44,319
they were more paranormal sensing these

940
00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:45,849
beings around me there was interaction

941
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:48,940
and eventually what started happening

942
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,529
was there were there was a type where

943
00:51:58,109 --> 00:51:53,200
there was some validation so I knew that

944
00:51:59,999 --> 00:51:58,119
this was something real I've had types

945
00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:00,009
that have occurred in an out-of-body

946
00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:04,150
state where I'm having physiological

947
00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:08,380
sensations happening to my body and I am

948
00:52:15,509 --> 00:52:12,220
hearing a group around me and they are

949
00:52:18,299 --> 00:52:15,519
interacting with me so there was a

950
00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:18,309
physical component there it was a it was

951
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:20,380
an out-of-body experience where I you

952
00:52:26,789 --> 00:52:23,200
know I had all my cognitive faculties

953
00:52:30,059 --> 00:52:26,799
it seemed intact but I was in this state

954
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:30,069
of euphoria that's that's another kind

955
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:32,650
I've had some where they've happened in

956
00:52:36,210 --> 00:52:33,850
dreams

957
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:36,220
primarily I've had some where they begin

958
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:39,130
outside of the dream where you know

959
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:40,900
something is in your room and then you

960
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,910
do something that is you act in an

961
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:45,040
unusual way that you wouldn't normally

962
00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:46,900
you break your routines and you get into

963
00:52:54,290 --> 00:52:48,940
bed and then boom you're asleep it

964
00:52:58,140 --> 00:52:54,300
continues in a dream I've had a fully

965
00:53:04,080 --> 00:52:58,150
conscious situation where a being

966
00:53:06,030 --> 00:53:04,090
appeared with a witness I have had so

967
00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:06,040
there's a there's a real mix dream and

968
00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:07,420
then there's the kind that I'm sure many

969
00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:08,620
of us have had where we're kind of in

970
00:53:14,670 --> 00:53:11,080
that in-between state hypnagogic state

971
00:53:18,210 --> 00:53:14,680
when we are we're starting to wake up

972
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:18,220
and something occurs in our room this

973
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:19,390
could be in the middle of the night or

974
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:21,250
for me for some reason this was

975
00:53:27,930 --> 00:53:25,330
happening in the morning when I'm about

976
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:27,940
to wake up I'm super close and there

977
00:53:32,490 --> 00:53:30,310
were I couldn't see them but I could

978
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:32,500
hear them perfectly talking over top of

979
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:39,160
me so there's such a range going on now

980
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:43,210
then and I find all of that interesting

981
00:53:47,070 --> 00:53:45,460
and the audience is listening and

982
00:53:49,610 --> 00:53:47,080
they're going down the check boxes yep

983
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:49,620
that happened to me yep that I'm sure

984
00:54:00,480 --> 00:53:56,130
I'm doing it myself right here so and I

985
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:00,490
read I collected I went out and did

986
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:04,240
everything that I could to to read what

987
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:08,770
were some of the books that you went and

988
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:11,410
researched and read I mean what an

989
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:14,650
interrupted journey or Betty Ann

990
00:54:19,410 --> 00:54:17,770
Driessen did to you just go back to some

991
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:19,420
of the early John Mack stuff what did

992
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:22,330
you what did you go and find well let's

993
00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:27,520
see to be honest I I did dabble in some

994
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:31,780
of that in the beginning when it was

995
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:33,970
more paranormal I was you know I was

996
00:54:39,150 --> 00:54:36,310
dabbling those in those realms and I

997
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:39,160
want I was always going to experience

998
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:42,310
all teachers because I wanted to learn

999
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,010
from them and I also wanted to you know

1000
00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:47,440
build a framework and try and

1001
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:51,640
feel safe with what was going on just

1002
00:54:57,420 --> 00:54:55,569
trying to think what else I went into

1003
00:55:00,270 --> 00:54:57,430
some channeling stuff I went into the

1004
00:55:03,690 --> 00:55:00,280
set books hold on hold on hold on hold

1005
00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:03,700
on hold on hold on Ola that was one of

1006
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:06,550
the great comments I've heard anybody

1007
00:55:13,859 --> 00:55:11,310
say you were trying to feel safe yeah I

1008
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:13,869
was I was and I'm sure a lot of other

1009
00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:16,960
people were too trying trying to feel

1010
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:19,150
safe but and trying to feel build a

1011
00:55:26,670 --> 00:55:24,000
framework because I mean something is

1012
00:55:28,859 --> 00:55:26,680
interacting with us we don't know if

1013
00:55:30,059 --> 00:55:28,869
it's coming from another dimension I

1014
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:30,069
mean at the time I wasn't even thinking

1015
00:55:33,930 --> 00:55:31,569
about dimensions that you know or

1016
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:33,940
anything like that all I knew is

1017
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:36,880
something was interacting with me so I

1018
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:41,200
had no control over my life I had no

1019
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:45,760
people that I could talk to what do you

1020
00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:49,390
do your this is a quite an interesting

1021
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:51,190
time in a person's life and yeah I know

1022
00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:54,130
all these people listening oh yeah I've

1023
00:55:58,829 --> 00:55:56,140
gone through this as well but we are

1024
00:56:03,030 --> 00:55:58,839
we're trying to build a framework of

1025
00:56:05,849 --> 00:56:03,040
control that makes us feel safe and

1026
00:56:08,970 --> 00:56:05,859
allows us to carry on because you know

1027
00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:08,980
we're bracing we have to prepare for you

1028
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:10,060
know what's going to happen in the

1029
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:15,040
future and it has changed over time so

1030
00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:18,910
yeah trying to feel safe is a big deal

1031
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:23,430
and as you as you started to not only

1032
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:27,910
seek out guidance and and other teachers

1033
00:56:33,950 --> 00:56:31,089
and stuff and and read about this were

1034
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:33,960
you finding some parallels and

1035
00:56:39,690 --> 00:56:36,640
connection between your own experiences

1036
00:56:43,319 --> 00:56:39,700
and what others were having out there

1037
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:43,329
which showed you that maybe you're just

1038
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:45,849
not playing nuts you know which is

1039
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:47,230
something that had to go through your

1040
00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:51,730
mind many times yeah I mean it was a it

1041
00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:53,230
was a slow build again through

1042
00:56:59,460 --> 00:56:55,990
mediumship at the very beginning and the

1043
00:57:01,200 --> 00:56:59,470
paranormal but yeah I did I did start to

1044
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:01,210
find other people

1045
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:04,090
I did start to realize it was happening

1046
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:07,150
to others it felt so good honestly it

1047
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:09,130
feels so good to find other people it's

1048
00:57:14,430 --> 00:57:11,440
so good to find groups it's so good to

1049
00:57:17,010 --> 00:57:14,440
find teachers and even when they don't

1050
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:17,020
fully resonate with you or you know it's

1051
00:57:25,140 --> 00:57:22,630
still good to go through that and take

1052
00:57:28,110 --> 00:57:25,150
what you need to help the ego feel safe

1053
00:57:33,830 --> 00:57:28,120
that's right so yeah yeah it's important

1054
00:57:37,470 --> 00:57:33,840
and what does it do for you one as a

1055
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:37,480
psychology major first off and and

1056
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:40,930
second when you're looking at the status

1057
00:57:46,650 --> 00:57:43,990
quo where that picture and that Dogma

1058
00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:46,660
that is is painted for the world that

1059
00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:49,720
everything is is quite normal there's

1060
00:57:56,370 --> 00:57:52,630
nothing else to see here just move on I

1061
00:58:01,980 --> 00:57:56,380
can live your life by consume and work

1062
00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:01,990
right yeah and and and surely that's the

1063
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:04,630
opposite right that is not the case now

1064
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:07,450
you know that the world is not what it

1065
00:58:11,130 --> 00:58:07,990
seems

1066
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:11,140
right the consensus reality that we've

1067
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:14,110
come that we grew up conditioned in and

1068
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:17,400
socialized in is not what it appears

1069
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:21,250
it's not what it appears and so we

1070
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:22,990
aren't living in the paradigm that we

1071
00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:26,050
thought we were and how do we reconcile

1072
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:26,680
that

1073
00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:29,890
did you ever we're gonna head towards a

1074
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:32,320
break here in about three minutes did

1075
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:34,450
you ever find a teacher or a professor

1076
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:37,210
in school that you could confide in that

1077
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:43,810
maybe understood this well no I did

1078
00:58:48,780 --> 00:58:46,050
actually but I I didn't so much in

1079
00:58:52,650 --> 00:58:48,790
psychology the International Studies

1080
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:52,660
part of my degree I did that through the

1081
00:58:58,590 --> 00:58:55,810
lens of a lot of anthropology or a world

1082
00:59:02,040 --> 00:58:58,600
religion and this type of thing there

1083
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:02,050
was a professor in medical anthropology

1084
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:06,130
that studies tribes around the world as

1085
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:08,230
it pertains to medicine and compares it

1086
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:13,490
to the Western world and she was amazing

1087
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,410
Shh you know because all of these tribes

1088
00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:17,119
around the world this is normal

1089
00:59:23,980 --> 00:59:21,470
commonplace right the basis of all

1090
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:23,990
healing and medicine is spiritual

1091
00:59:29,260 --> 00:59:26,690
balance and that means dealing with all

1092
00:59:32,140 --> 00:59:29,270
of you know they believe in these

1093
00:59:32,830 --> 00:59:32,150
entities they believe in they believe in

1094
00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:32,840
all of this

1095
00:59:40,210 --> 00:59:36,950
so she's open to all of it so that is

1096
00:59:44,350 --> 00:59:40,220
where I found some solace and some peace

1097
00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:44,360
and she actually encouraged me to study

1098
00:59:52,780 --> 00:59:46,790
what I wanted so and to do and present

1099
00:59:55,630 --> 00:59:52,790
on what I wanted so I studied Tibetan

1100
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:55,640
dream yoga which is a form of lucid

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01:00:01,450 --> 00:59:57,680
dreaming to learn more about you know

1102
01:00:03,609 --> 01:00:01,460
what but that was all about and a whole

1103
01:00:05,140 --> 01:00:03,619
variety of things but though that was

1104
01:00:08,170 --> 01:00:05,150
all through medical anthropology I was

1105
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:08,180
so surprised that that that was where I

1106
01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:11,090
found I could talk about these things

1107
01:00:17,830 --> 01:00:15,830
and yeah yeah and so today and when we

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:17,840
come back we're gonna you know focus on

1109
01:00:21,550 --> 01:00:19,850
a couple of your experiences I don't

1110
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:21,560
want to discuss remote viewing too as

1111
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:25,760
well but today how comfortable now are

1112
01:00:31,390 --> 01:00:29,210
you you know with yourself when you hear

1113
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:31,400
about these other experiences or have us

1114
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:33,950
you know these sightings or more you

1115
01:00:39,099 --> 01:00:36,770
know how comfortable are you I'll tell

1116
01:00:41,980 --> 01:00:39,109
you how comfortable I am I I often have

1117
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:41,990
said you know just see how far you can

1118
01:00:47,710 --> 01:00:46,400
push me it's I am so comfortable I am so

1119
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:47,720
comfortable because of what has happened

1120
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:54,050
to me I will throw myself out there for

1121
01:01:01,060 --> 01:00:57,530
anyone who you know needs to talk about

1122
01:01:02,790 --> 01:01:01,070
these things I I've just I've done a lot

1123
01:01:06,670 --> 01:01:02,800
of exploring I've spent many years

1124
01:01:13,150 --> 01:01:06,680
reconciling this I I have had a lot

1125
01:01:15,820 --> 01:01:13,160
happen so I I feel very solid and stable

1126
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:15,830
I would say I've done enough research

1127
01:01:22,359 --> 01:01:18,640
and gone through enough that my ego

1128
01:01:26,109 --> 01:01:22,369
feels safe and my framework feels good

1129
01:01:27,310 --> 01:01:26,119
and stable so you know so I'm not

1130
01:01:30,970 --> 01:01:27,320
questioning my

1131
01:01:36,370 --> 01:01:30,980
anymore I'm not I'm not doubting myself

1132
01:01:39,970 --> 01:01:36,380
I I know what happened and I I feel good

1133
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:39,980
about it now so and when you go to we've

1134
01:01:46,180 --> 01:01:41,930
got about one minute when you go to

1135
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:46,190
conferences and you walk around you

1136
01:01:50,260 --> 01:01:47,570
don't even have to say anything I'm

1137
01:01:53,740 --> 01:01:50,270
saying when you walk around and you're

1138
01:01:55,930 --> 01:01:53,750
with others is it like the most

1139
01:01:59,770 --> 01:01:55,940
comfortable coolest thing that you can

1140
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,780
possibly experience oh yeah it is you

1141
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:01,280
know I just want to say the very first

1142
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:04,640
time I went to a UFO conference I came

1143
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:07,250
away saying you know these were some of

1144
01:02:14,650 --> 01:02:11,030
the most open hearted people I'd ever

1145
01:02:16,420 --> 01:02:14,660
met I I just thought it was not even

1146
01:02:17,830 --> 01:02:16,430
close to some of the other paranormal

1147
01:02:21,460 --> 01:02:17,840
ones I just thought these people have

1148
01:02:24,790 --> 01:02:21,470
had something so fantastic changed their

1149
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:24,800
whole worldview and and they're just

1150
01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:28,160
these unique open-hearted beings who are

1151
01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:31,190
so willing to share and so I loved them

1152
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:34,150
right away for that exact reason yeah I

1153
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:36,770
experienced the same thing

1154
01:02:42,790 --> 01:02:40,850
in that I know individually don't not

1155
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:42,800
not the collective but when you go down

1156
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,720
you know not the mind you know let's go

1157
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:46,400
to the micro side of it when you go to

1158
01:02:53,710 --> 01:02:50,000
the individuals there is something so

1159
01:02:55,810 --> 01:02:53,720
profound and emotional and personal that

1160
01:02:59,590 --> 01:02:55,820
has happened in each one of their lives

1161
01:03:02,530 --> 01:02:59,600
that they are there and that's that's

1162
01:03:05,590 --> 01:03:02,540
what I find to be the most remarkable

1163
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:05,600
and that's what I respect the most yeah

1164
01:03:09,790 --> 01:03:07,130
I love that one of my favorite things

1165
01:03:11,230 --> 01:03:09,800
was always sitting down at a table you

1166
01:03:12,910 --> 01:03:11,240
know filled with all strangers because I

1167
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:12,920
used to go to them by myself always

1168
01:03:19,690 --> 01:03:15,290
right and just saying what brought you

1169
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:19,700
here I do it all you know and people who

1170
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:21,650
were shy who were going I always said

1171
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:25,610
you know never assume always ask that of

1172
01:03:30,220 --> 01:03:27,710
the person beside you you you you won't

1173
01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:30,230
believe what's going on in that person's

1174
01:03:34,780 --> 01:03:32,480
world and they're just being quiet about

1175
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:34,790
it so ask them yeah that's my favorite

1176
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:37,510
thing so why you here bro all right

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01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:40,049
let's take a break right here trace

1178
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:42,329
see and when we come back we're gonna go

1179
01:03:46,929 --> 01:03:44,880
I wanted to discuss remote viewing yeah

1180
01:03:49,219 --> 01:03:46,939
and we've got a couple of other little

1181
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:49,229
experiences that you've gone through I'm

1182
01:03:53,989 --> 01:03:50,880
gonna go through all of that for the

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01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:53,999
audience tonight I'm introducing Tracy

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01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:55,410
Garba to you

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01:03:58,759 --> 01:03:56,880
this is fade to black I'm your host

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01:04:01,710 --> 01:03:58,769
Jimmy Church more with Tracy right after

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01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:01,720
this short break stay with us

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:21,670
this is fade to black

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right now at J Church radio our guest

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01:08:08,850 --> 01:08:06,400
tonight Tracy Garbett and I'm

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introducing her to the world tonight

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01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:11,050
idea how Tracy I'm just so excited this

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is so cool and I hope you're having as

1262
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:17,410
much fun as I am now a degree in

1263
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:21,520
psychology and which I find fascinating

1264
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:24,970
because you are going to share a story

1265
01:08:35,250 --> 01:08:29,890
with us where you encounter something

1266
01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:35,260
somebody but with a witness so before we

1267
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:38,920
get into the details set us up what was

1268
01:08:46,290 --> 01:08:42,490
going on when this happened okay so well

1269
01:08:48,770 --> 01:08:46,300
okay pretty straightforward but I will

1270
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:48,780
just say this did not happen in a dream

1271
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:51,610
we did not have a glass of wine this was

1272
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:54,850
not late at night there was nothing

1273
01:09:00,660 --> 01:08:58,650
going on I'm hanging out with my friend

1274
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:00,670
sitting on a couch

1275
01:09:07,250 --> 01:09:04,330
everything is just normal normal early

1276
01:09:08,810 --> 01:09:07,260
evening not even dark

1277
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:08,820
[Music]

1278
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:15,970
we are watching a documentary and the

1279
01:09:25,740 --> 01:09:20,080
next thing I know I will describe this

1280
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:25,750
the best I can I was aware of being what

1281
01:09:31,820 --> 01:09:28,150
I described as inside myself like kind

1282
01:09:34,230 --> 01:09:31,830
of frozen inside myself with these two

1283
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:34,240
fighting thoughts going on this one

1284
01:09:42,350 --> 01:09:38,970
saying I just saw that that and this and

1285
01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:42,360
realizing that I had just seen this tall

1286
01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:46,390
hooded dark figure there was seven feet

1287
01:09:51,930 --> 01:09:49,390
tall and this other part of me fighting

1288
01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:51,940
saying no it was a projection of the TV

1289
01:09:56,030 --> 01:09:53,800
so it was like I was frozen I it was

1290
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:56,040
like I couldn't move and I was just

1291
01:10:00,570 --> 01:09:58,330
heard of my brain was trying to write it

1292
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:00,580
off and a part of my brain was pushing

1293
01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:02,430
through and then when I find

1294
01:10:07,940 --> 01:10:04,860
sort of broke out of this I don't know

1295
01:10:10,670 --> 01:10:07,950
kya felt like the suspension I was like

1296
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:10,680
no I saw that and I looked at my friend

1297
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:12,450
sitting beside me who just looked like

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:15,210
she was in this frozen state you know I

1299
01:10:19,310 --> 01:10:18,210
grab her and say her name and she's like

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01:10:23,090 --> 01:10:19,320
oh my gosh I thought that was a

1301
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:23,100
projection of the TV and we get up and

1302
01:10:29,390 --> 01:10:25,890
of course we both we both saw this you

1303
01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:29,400
know roughly seven foot tall hooded

1304
01:10:33,620 --> 01:10:31,470
figure we remember the exact same things

1305
01:10:38,330 --> 01:10:33,630
and we cannot fill in the exact same

1306
01:10:42,380 --> 01:10:38,340
thing so it was it was a dark looking

1307
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:42,390
hooded figure it flashed the way we

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01:10:47,450 --> 01:10:45,570
remember it flashed like a slow flash in

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01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:47,460
front of it in front of us but there I

1310
01:10:54,860 --> 01:10:52,080
mean we saw that thing and but we cannot

1311
01:10:59,570 --> 01:10:54,870
make out what the face looked like or

1312
01:11:01,400 --> 01:10:59,580
the the body in the middle we have never

1313
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:01,410
been able to but here are the things

1314
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:02,880
I've been thinking you know because this

1315
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:05,310
happened years ago now and we didn't

1316
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:10,070
talk about it forever but it was like

1317
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:13,290
there's a sensation that you have when

1318
01:11:17,450 --> 01:11:15,690
you know something is about to happen

1319
01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:17,460
I've had other experiences and I'm sure

1320
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:20,070
you have and other people have and we've

1321
01:11:23,930 --> 01:11:21,840
seen this in random number generators

1322
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:23,940
that we actually do know that before

1323
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:26,730
things happen something in us feels that

1324
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or we've seen it with animals too

1325
01:11:37,550 --> 01:11:33,290
the the sense with this for me is that

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01:11:40,460 --> 01:11:37,560
we came to at the end of an experience I

1327
01:11:43,660 --> 01:11:40,470
felt like I was coming out of something

1328
01:11:48,740 --> 01:11:43,670
I I feel like there's a whole part

1329
01:11:52,460 --> 01:11:48,750
missing and this was just breaking back

1330
01:11:57,410 --> 01:11:52,470
into sort of waking conscious reality at

1331
01:12:00,350 --> 01:11:57,420
the end of it so this was the conscious

1332
01:12:02,570 --> 01:12:00,360
encounter I had with a witness well okay

1333
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:02,580
a couple of questions really quickly is

1334
01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:05,850
this pretty amazing how far away from

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01:12:14,540 --> 01:12:11,880
you I would say eight eight feet eight

1336
01:12:19,339 --> 01:12:14,550
yeah eight feet roughly to close

1337
01:12:22,370 --> 01:12:19,349
actually okay yeah and you you said that

1338
01:12:25,819 --> 01:12:22,380
you were watching a documentary so was

1339
01:12:29,780 --> 01:12:25,829
this to the left or to the right of the

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01:12:34,700 --> 01:12:29,790
television no it was this is another

1341
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:34,710
thing it was directly in perfectly in

1342
01:12:39,169 --> 01:12:37,530
our line of vision perfectly which tells

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01:12:41,390 --> 01:12:39,179
me I mean I don't know for sure I'm

1344
01:12:46,189 --> 01:12:41,400
speculating of course but that makes me

1345
01:12:48,589 --> 01:12:46,199
think you know if these uber intelligent

1346
01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:48,599
beings have all the choices of what what

1347
01:12:51,379 --> 01:12:49,980
they can do and what they can leave us

1348
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:51,389
with that tells me there's some sort of

1349
01:12:56,959 --> 01:12:54,480
intention for us to see it the fact that

1350
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:56,969
it was so directly in between us in the

1351
01:13:01,729 --> 01:12:59,520
TV this is my own interpretation and

1352
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:01,739
hers you know you know how crazy this

1353
01:13:05,899 --> 01:13:02,400
sounds

1354
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:05,909
this is amazing to go through this okay

1355
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:10,170
so and so I'm understanding here little

1356
01:13:17,180 --> 01:13:14,730
recap you go you've you phase out right

1357
01:13:18,290 --> 01:13:17,190
you're you go through this thing maybe

1358
01:13:21,049 --> 01:13:18,300
some butterflies in the stomach

1359
01:13:24,649 --> 01:13:21,059
something an event is about to happen

1360
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:24,659
and then directly in front of you eight

1361
01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:26,730
feet out in front of you between you and

1362
01:13:34,609 --> 01:13:31,550
the television this seven foot being

1363
01:13:36,919 --> 01:13:34,619
appears in front of you yeah that's

1364
01:13:39,260 --> 01:13:36,929
right I and you know what the craziest

1365
01:13:44,330 --> 01:13:39,270
thing is I mean but it's common you know

1366
01:13:47,180 --> 01:13:44,340
we now know in in this in this realm of

1367
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:47,190
things we didn't talk about this forever

1368
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:50,730
and and then when we finally did start

1369
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:55,199
talking about it a couple years ago it's

1370
01:14:02,720 --> 01:13:58,800
a perfect setup for hypnotic regression

1371
01:14:04,819 --> 01:14:02,730
and I'm open to it she's open to it I

1372
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:04,829
have intended to do it but I just never

1373
01:14:08,839 --> 01:14:07,199
do it it's it's really funny it's this

1374
01:14:12,140 --> 01:14:08,849
thing that keeps pushing away and she's

1375
01:14:14,810 --> 01:14:12,150
you know often said to me if I didn't

1376
01:14:16,549 --> 01:14:14,820
have you I probably my brain feels like

1377
01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:16,559
it would have just pushed it away to a

1378
01:14:20,540 --> 01:14:18,420
place where it doesn't even exist yeah

1379
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:20,550
and and that's true that's why I feel so

1380
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:22,170
lucky that we have each other we keep

1381
01:14:27,799 --> 01:14:25,679
coming back to that know that was there

1382
01:14:31,309 --> 01:14:27,809
you know that thing was there

1383
01:14:36,020 --> 01:14:31,319
um yeah look I'll give you my advice no

1384
01:14:40,699 --> 01:14:36,030
regression you don't want aggression no

1385
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:40,709
no and I don't want to know okay let me

1386
01:14:45,349 --> 01:14:44,010
tell you this let me say this and this

1387
01:14:49,339 --> 01:14:45,359
is something we do in remote viewing and

1388
01:14:53,359 --> 01:14:49,349
we can talk about later but very used to

1389
01:14:58,059 --> 01:14:53,369
you know probing yourself for questions

1390
01:14:59,629 --> 01:14:58,069
so one would be if there was a scale of

1391
01:15:01,969 --> 01:14:59,639
how did it

1392
01:15:04,909 --> 01:15:01,979
what was the residual feeling that you

1393
01:15:07,309 --> 01:15:04,919
had you know was it on negative to

1394
01:15:08,689 --> 01:15:07,319
neutral to positive and both of us said

1395
01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:08,699
it was sort of sat on the scale between

1396
01:15:14,869 --> 01:15:11,129
neutral to positive there was there was

1397
01:15:18,079 --> 01:15:14,879
no now that could just be cognitive

1398
01:15:22,699 --> 01:15:18,089
hijacking I realized that's absolutely a

1399
01:15:24,500 --> 01:15:22,709
possibility but um I don't know

1400
01:15:26,389 --> 01:15:24,510
I you know sometimes you just have a

1401
01:15:31,339 --> 01:15:26,399
feeling about things and I could be

1402
01:15:34,819 --> 01:15:31,349
wrong but it is one that I do intend to

1403
01:15:36,859 --> 01:15:34,829
dig into at some point well I would like

1404
01:15:39,949 --> 01:15:36,869
to we'll see we'll see okay

1405
01:15:43,309 --> 01:15:39,959
could you I'll help you with that

1406
01:15:45,589 --> 01:15:43,319
decision right now could you see did you

1407
01:15:48,559 --> 01:15:45,599
see through him did you see the TV

1408
01:15:52,129 --> 01:15:48,569
through no it was no one's ever asked me

1409
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:52,139
that before no solid solid

1410
01:15:59,559 --> 01:15:55,530
oh that's just not right yeah did yeah

1411
01:16:03,229 --> 01:15:59,569
okay what was there anything in your

1412
01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:03,239
family or hers did anybody just recently

1413
01:16:11,059 --> 01:16:05,550
pass away was there anything like that

1414
01:16:13,959 --> 01:16:11,069
that oh no you know before this I had

1415
01:16:18,099 --> 01:16:13,969
such a long history of that type of

1416
01:16:22,549 --> 01:16:18,109
visitation and I gotta say there is a

1417
01:16:24,589 --> 01:16:22,559
completely different feel of this nobody

1418
01:16:28,069 --> 01:16:24,599
had passed away and I have had

1419
01:16:34,099 --> 01:16:28,079
experiences with that there is this

1420
01:16:36,739 --> 01:16:34,109
different feel in the intent this is my

1421
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:36,749
interpretation that it's more it was

1422
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:40,510
more businessí more

1423
01:16:47,580 --> 01:16:44,130
isn't even the right word just um

1424
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:47,590
serious yeah deliberate yeah serious and

1425
01:16:54,029 --> 01:16:50,050
deliberate right right it was done for

1426
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:54,039
you and for her too as well and you know

1427
01:16:58,319 --> 01:16:56,650
we often have wondered as did it occur

1428
01:17:00,060 --> 01:16:58,329
because you know is there some

1429
01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:00,070
significance of the two of us being

1430
01:17:03,359 --> 01:17:01,960
together because we we don't get

1431
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:03,369
together very often you know maybe there

1432
01:17:07,049 --> 01:17:05,530
wasn't we could be reading into it but

1433
01:17:11,310 --> 01:17:07,059
we you know it's it's a fair question

1434
01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:11,320
how how long was he there I'm saying he

1435
01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:14,590
I'm assuming yeah I know we really don't

1436
01:17:20,609 --> 01:17:17,320
know really don't know we would just be

1437
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:20,619
speculating I honestly believe that that

1438
01:17:30,930 --> 01:17:28,960
was a trace left yeah could be could be

1439
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:30,940
why do you know what yeah everything is

1440
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:33,130
speculation you know we could theorize

1441
01:17:39,509 --> 01:17:37,449
all day long that's my feeling is that

1442
01:17:41,609 --> 01:17:39,519
that was sort of a trace image of a

1443
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:41,619
larger experience I didn't I wasn't sure

1444
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:43,510
about that before but you know I've

1445
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:47,590
reflected on it a lot as a you know in

1446
01:17:54,810 --> 01:17:51,489
the last year and I I do think that that

1447
01:17:57,660 --> 01:17:54,820
was a larger experience so that's that's

1448
01:18:01,040 --> 01:17:57,670
just it could be so many different than

1449
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:01,050
it could be like some crazy

1450
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:03,070
interdimensional parallel world

1451
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:05,710
colliding thing it's just phased in and

1452
01:18:12,299 --> 01:18:10,150
phased out you know and yeah yeah

1453
01:18:16,729 --> 01:18:12,309
there's et there's other but could even

1454
01:18:19,649 --> 01:18:16,739
be you know us in another dimension

1455
01:18:21,359 --> 01:18:19,659
future selves other selves simultaneous

1456
01:18:24,629 --> 01:18:21,369
selves

1457
01:18:26,910 --> 01:18:24,639
there's so many possibilities you guys

1458
01:18:30,060 --> 01:18:26,920
weren't doing Ouija earlier and then I

1459
01:18:31,169 --> 01:18:30,070
were you know the last time I did that I

1460
01:18:34,649 --> 01:18:31,179
was 11

1461
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:34,659
at my birthday party and every kid went

1462
01:18:39,859 --> 01:18:37,360
screaming left screaming from my house

1463
01:18:43,799 --> 01:18:39,869
and I never touched anything like that

1464
01:18:46,169 --> 01:18:43,809
till way later even when my experiences

1465
01:18:50,459 --> 01:18:46,179
started really really in early adulthood

1466
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:50,469
I I didn't want anyone to say the word

1467
01:18:54,690 --> 01:18:52,570
psychic to me I used to keep lights on

1468
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:54,700
everywhere had radios on all the time

1469
01:19:00,000 --> 01:18:57,010
because I wanted to block this stuff out

1470
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:00,010
and I finally broke down and pulled him

1471
01:19:03,690 --> 01:19:01,840
out an alternative magazine and found a

1472
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:03,700
psychic and said I don't want to reading

1473
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:05,080
just tell me what to do you know it was

1474
01:19:10,350 --> 01:19:08,050
like that I didn't I didn't want any of

1475
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:10,360
that stuff around me so yeah I did you

1476
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:13,690
know myself and so many of the listeners

1477
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:14,800
right now I've gone through the same

1478
01:19:21,420 --> 01:19:18,250
thing I did ten years of of lights on

1479
01:19:23,460 --> 01:19:21,430
and TV on all night I mean I just I

1480
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:23,470
didn't know how else to deal with it but

1481
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:25,450
that's the way and it continues to this

1482
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:29,110
day I yeah I I still have a problem with

1483
01:19:34,260 --> 01:19:31,510
it as well it's a little bit better I

1484
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:34,270
mean it it was really bad for a long

1485
01:19:41,220 --> 01:19:39,250
time where if I was alone alone I would

1486
01:19:42,180 --> 01:19:41,230
have to put lights on you know there

1487
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:42,190
were times where I lived in a house with

1488
01:19:47,670 --> 01:19:44,320
the basement and different floors and

1489
01:19:50,210 --> 01:19:47,680
you know ooh I've moved a lot but I

1490
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:50,220
would have to have lights on on every

1491
01:19:56,220 --> 01:19:54,250
floor and still you know I would prefer

1492
01:19:58,230 --> 01:19:56,230
to have somebody with me yeah

1493
01:20:00,780 --> 01:19:58,240
Rita is it's so funny I want to leave

1494
01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:00,790
the lights on downstairs upstairs you

1495
01:20:05,610 --> 01:20:03,700
know and that at night and she forces me

1496
01:20:08,820 --> 01:20:05,620
to turn them off and it's like you know

1497
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:08,830
who is somebody with OCD you don't you

1498
01:20:12,750 --> 01:20:10,690
know you just can't they're gonna do

1499
01:20:17,670 --> 01:20:12,760
what they and they're uncomfortable if

1500
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:17,680
they can't do what they need to do and I

1501
01:20:22,650 --> 01:20:20,320
need the lights on so Rita goes to New

1502
01:20:25,530 --> 01:20:22,660
York over Christmas with our daughter

1503
01:20:29,820 --> 01:20:25,540
Diana for vacation they're out there for

1504
01:20:34,350 --> 01:20:29,830
ten days I had ten days of lights on all

1505
01:20:39,260 --> 01:20:34,360
my 10 days of TV all night long ten days

1506
01:20:44,850 --> 01:20:42,300
that's the thing for me too

1507
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:44,860
in the past whenever my partner at the

1508
01:20:48,030 --> 01:20:47,440
time is gone away oh my god that TV's on

1509
01:20:51,450 --> 01:20:48,040
all night

1510
01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:51,460
I can't sleep at all I'm backed up in a

1511
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:53,310
corner sometimes I'll stay on the couch

1512
01:20:59,670 --> 01:20:56,800
you know but and then I'll have of

1513
01:21:03,750 --> 01:20:59,680
course the penetration of the the TV

1514
01:21:05,550 --> 01:21:03,760
whatever's on late in my dreams it's

1515
01:21:07,290 --> 01:21:05,560
when I finally fall asleep at four

1516
01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:07,300
o'clock in the morning oh it messes me

1517
01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:08,500
up yeah

1518
01:21:12,030 --> 01:21:10,840
definitely messes me up I understand and

1519
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:12,040
I'm sure a lot of people out there do

1520
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:14,770
too it's so funny and I'm okay with it

1521
01:21:23,820 --> 01:21:18,880
like Rita will read it just and tweet

1522
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:23,830
texted me cry me a river but so I'll

1523
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:26,110
always try to you know you know Rita is

1524
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:27,490
turning off the lights and I like well

1525
01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:29,530
let's leave one little one on she's why

1526
01:21:38,190 --> 01:21:36,760
the dogs need to see in the dark yeah I

1527
01:21:40,110 --> 01:21:38,200
did that too as well

1528
01:21:42,150 --> 01:21:40,120
nights everywhere only when there's

1529
01:21:43,950 --> 01:21:42,160
someone else there if there's no one

1530
01:21:46,230 --> 01:21:43,960
else there night lights won't die right

1531
01:21:50,610 --> 01:21:46,240
they're not enough there's no way see

1532
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:50,620
everybody your normal normal whatever

1533
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:52,930
honestly whatever it takes to make the

1534
01:21:59,460 --> 01:21:55,600
ego feel safe but I did do hypnotherapy

1535
01:22:03,210 --> 01:21:59,470
for that that helped reduce it a little

1536
01:22:05,670 --> 01:22:03,220
bit I will say yeah I see and I what I

1537
01:22:08,970 --> 01:22:05,680
did was probably the wrong thing to do I

1538
01:22:13,380 --> 01:22:08,980
just I studied more you know I went more

1539
01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:13,390
into it more into it and in some ways it

1540
01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:15,940
freaked me it continued the freakout it

1541
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:18,940
didn't really help but I also as I

1542
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:21,340
researched and I recommend this for

1543
01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:23,170
everybody just to know that it's

1544
01:22:27,210 --> 01:22:25,270
happening you're not the only one you

1545
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:27,220
know it's it's happening out there and

1546
01:22:33,330 --> 01:22:30,370
it's oh it's okay well it's not okay but

1547
01:22:35,070 --> 01:22:33,340
it's okay you just find out and and try

1548
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:35,080
to reach out and talk to once I started

1549
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:36,850
talking about a Tracy I just I haven't

1550
01:22:42,270 --> 01:22:39,730
shut up and I haven't shut up sighs but

1551
01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:42,280
it is I mean you know it is really great

1552
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:43,660
to have people that you can talk to

1553
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:45,970
about it and you know it's so wonderful

1554
01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:48,810
that there's this big group of listeners

1555
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:52,060
that in particular meet each other at

1556
01:22:58,380 --> 01:22:53,890
conferences you know I've definitely

1557
01:23:00,570 --> 01:22:58,390
seen that happen at your shows and and

1558
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:00,580
at the conferences and I just think it's

1559
01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:03,520
so important and we need that we need

1560
01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:07,030
each other yeah when I what I thought

1561
01:23:11,610 --> 01:23:08,710
was really fascinating when I started to

1562
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:11,620
share some of my experiences on this

1563
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:15,130
show I I got to the point where I just

1564
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:17,050
don't care anymore and I don't care I

1565
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:18,730
don't care I don't care what people

1566
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:21,280
think what people think about what I

1567
01:23:27,390 --> 01:23:24,370
have experienced I want to I don't give

1568
01:23:30,420 --> 01:23:27,400
a bleep what they care about I honestly

1569
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:30,430
don't care about what has happened with

1570
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:33,040
that is I have people come up to me all

1571
01:23:37,500 --> 01:23:35,440
the time or call into this show or send

1572
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:37,510
me an email that says you know what I

1573
01:23:41,790 --> 01:23:39,490
went through that same exact thing can I

1574
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:41,800
share it with you and then I'll get the

1575
01:23:46,110 --> 01:23:43,570
long email or get the long phone call

1576
01:23:48,270 --> 01:23:46,120
I'll get the the great experience in

1577
01:23:51,180 --> 01:23:48,280
person and and we'll talk through it and

1578
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:51,190
they'll always say the exact same thing

1579
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:53,170
over and over again I've never talked

1580
01:23:59,460 --> 01:23:55,930
about this before you know but you have

1581
01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:59,470
enabled me you have empowered me to just

1582
01:24:04,620 --> 01:24:01,600
go out and talk about it and what a

1583
01:24:06,510 --> 01:24:04,630
relief it is it's it's you know it's a

1584
01:24:08,940 --> 01:24:06,520
burden that you have just you know

1585
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:08,950
people are walking around like yourself

1586
01:24:14,490 --> 01:24:11,170
Tracy they walk around with luggage

1587
01:24:17,010 --> 01:24:14,500
hanging off of them serious bags just

1588
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:17,020
you know holding them down start to

1589
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:19,360
conscious yeah just start cutting that

1590
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:22,570
and into your you're not you know you're

1591
01:24:27,420 --> 01:24:24,730
not in a big tank of molasses anymore

1592
01:24:29,490 --> 01:24:27,430
you're not being held back so let's talk

1593
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:29,500
about remote viewing before we get to

1594
01:24:35,150 --> 01:24:33,490
one at the bottom of the hour the remote

1595
01:24:39,570 --> 01:24:35,160
viewing

1596
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:39,580
well for me is real right I don't need

1597
01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:42,810
convincing of that but I did have

1598
01:24:47,970 --> 01:24:46,510
something happened five years ago with a

1599
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:47,980
remote viewer out there and I just

1600
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:51,850
happened to it was a remote view about

1601
01:24:58,920 --> 01:24:56,410
me and I happened to stumble upon this

1602
01:25:01,620 --> 01:24:58,930
on YouTube when it was like seven views

1603
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:01,630
right and it was just a lucky thing and

1604
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:05,290
there it was but the point is I watched

1605
01:25:09,780 --> 01:25:07,570
this remote viewer go through everything

1606
01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:09,790
and in the end open up the envelope I

1607
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:11,860
watched all the drawings and all the

1608
01:25:16,620 --> 01:25:13,570
development of this was like an

1609
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:16,630
hour-long remote view with an overhead

1610
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:20,230
camera and him drying slowly zeroing in

1611
01:25:27,470 --> 01:25:24,370
on what was the Malibu underwater base

1612
01:25:30,350 --> 01:25:27,480
and it was a photograph that I

1613
01:25:32,900 --> 01:25:30,360
published on the net with my original

1614
01:25:35,890 --> 01:25:32,910
article about it but this remote viewer

1615
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:35,900
didn't know and in the envelope was this

1616
01:25:42,980 --> 01:25:39,450
image and that said Jimmy Church

1617
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:42,990
radio.com on the bottom of the image so

1618
01:25:51,710 --> 01:25:46,890
I'm watching this and and when I saw

1619
01:25:54,380 --> 01:25:51,720
what ended up how do I want to say that

1620
01:25:59,050 --> 01:25:54,390
resolved when I saw it resolved and I

1621
01:26:01,880 --> 01:25:59,060
saw the envelope open I went ok there is

1622
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:01,890
it was validation for me that remote

1623
01:26:07,550 --> 01:26:05,760
viewing was a real science but also it

1624
01:26:09,980 --> 01:26:07,560
was tied to me and I knew what was

1625
01:26:13,370 --> 01:26:09,990
actually going on here and I saw the

1626
01:26:16,580 --> 01:26:13,380
development of it fascinating for you

1627
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:16,590
yeah yeah for you what what how did you

1628
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:19,650
get into remote viewing well it was it's

1629
01:26:24,110 --> 01:26:21,510
actually part of what I was mentioning

1630
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:24,120
before I was really just trying to make

1631
01:26:29,570 --> 01:26:26,000
sense of the things that were happening

1632
01:26:31,730 --> 01:26:29,580
I was having visions my sister kind of

1633
01:26:33,950 --> 01:26:31,740
has dreams I have visions they just

1634
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:33,960
happened and you know I could just move

1635
01:26:39,020 --> 01:26:36,330
my head to the side and there's what I

1636
01:26:41,210 --> 01:26:39,030
call an overlay or I would just blink my

1637
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:41,220
eyes or shut my eyes and I would see all

1638
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:44,010
of these different things and I got into

1639
01:26:51,020 --> 01:26:46,290
remote viewing just to try to build

1640
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:51,030
framework and just you know figure out

1641
01:26:58,370 --> 01:26:53,070
what's going out with my what's going on

1642
01:27:00,440 --> 01:26:58,380
with my mind I again it was part of when

1643
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:00,450
I felt a little bit safer a little bit

1644
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:04,560
of a experimenting what what is this why

1645
01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:07,110
is my mind showing me this should what

1646
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:11,760
do I do with this it was just so random

1647
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:14,610
I just have all these random things come

1648
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:16,800
in and I just wanted to get some control

1649
01:27:22,460 --> 01:27:19,890
of it and see you you know I thought

1650
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:22,470
maybe you know if this is happening

1651
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:24,210
maybe there's something I'm supposed to

1652
01:27:30,380 --> 01:27:27,210
do with it so remote viewing was one way

1653
01:27:34,700 --> 01:27:30,390
for me to just investigate my own mind

1654
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:34,710
which now I feel is so important I'm I'm

1655
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:37,920
so into that and doing that in many

1656
01:27:45,700 --> 01:27:41,370
different ways so it's um yeah

1657
01:27:49,460 --> 01:27:45,710
well okay so then you decide to learn

1658
01:27:52,940 --> 01:27:49,470
yeah I decide to learn I had a teacher

1659
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:52,950
in Canada Paul elder who works for the

1660
01:28:01,070 --> 01:27:57,120
Monroe Institute and we did all of these

1661
01:28:06,020 --> 01:28:01,080
levels and and you know it is something

1662
01:28:12,140 --> 01:28:06,030
else it is something else when you

1663
01:28:16,610 --> 01:28:12,150
yourself perceive something so far away

1664
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:16,620
so unusual and you see for this example

1665
01:28:24,350 --> 01:28:21,480
is through somebody else's eyes and all

1666
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:24,360
of their senses what they are

1667
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:27,120
experiencing in their environment when

1668
01:28:33,020 --> 01:28:30,570
you have something like that happen to

1669
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:33,030
you I mean not even trying to prove

1670
01:28:38,990 --> 01:28:35,370
anything to anybody else when you do

1671
01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:39,000
that yourself somewhere that's thousands

1672
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:41,490
of miles away you know that you got

1673
01:28:47,930 --> 01:28:44,570
everything wrong totally totally totally

1674
01:28:50,570 --> 01:28:47,940
got everything wrong and you gotta go

1675
01:28:55,370 --> 01:28:50,580
and you gotta reassess reality and

1676
01:29:00,380 --> 01:28:58,550
help me understand I think I understand

1677
01:29:02,630 --> 01:29:00,390
without one that I'm sort of referring

1678
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:02,640
to here well we're gonna do that but

1679
01:29:07,070 --> 01:29:05,250
we're gonna hit towards a break so we

1680
01:29:08,990 --> 01:29:07,080
can do this when we come back but I want

1681
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:09,000
to understand what you're suggesting

1682
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:14,010
here so you're saying that you're you're

1683
01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:17,130
in your remote viewing and certainly

1684
01:29:22,700 --> 01:29:18,480
with this one that we're gonna talk

1685
01:29:25,610 --> 01:29:22,710
about you were in somebody else's POV

1686
01:29:29,570 --> 01:29:25,620
and somebody else's point of view and

1687
01:29:33,890 --> 01:29:29,580
you are experiencing all of their senses

1688
01:29:37,460 --> 01:29:33,900
as well as if it was you that were there

1689
01:29:39,340 --> 01:29:37,470
you know it's not only that it goes

1690
01:29:42,380 --> 01:29:39,350
beyond that

1691
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:42,390
sensing everything they're sensing but

1692
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:44,250
you'll hear when I describe it

1693
01:29:50,810 --> 01:29:47,330
you might hear better what I what I mean

1694
01:29:53,420 --> 01:29:50,820
there is a sensory part of it that goes

1695
01:29:55,229 --> 01:29:53,430
even it seems to go even beyond that

1696
01:29:58,259 --> 01:29:55,239
person

1697
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:58,269
but it begins from the point of that

1698
01:30:05,069 --> 01:29:59,920
person it's wild

1699
01:30:07,979 --> 01:30:05,079
now if if if some1 okay look I'm gonna

1700
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:07,989
go right I'm gonna go there what if

1701
01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:11,530
something like this happened and it was

1702
01:30:19,529 --> 01:30:14,710
a crime that was being committed or a

1703
01:30:21,959 --> 01:30:19,539
sexual act or an act of terror or you

1704
01:30:26,009 --> 01:30:21,969
know something else

1705
01:30:30,089 --> 01:30:26,019
what do you do with that well in this

1706
01:30:33,959 --> 01:30:30,099
situation it's set up in in its it's set

1707
01:30:35,489 --> 01:30:33,969
up so you know it's a controlled most of

1708
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,499
the time it's a controlled environment I

1709
01:30:40,770 --> 01:30:37,440
mean some of the targets we're doing I

1710
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:40,780
don't exactly know you know you don't

1711
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:42,489
know what's happening with them that I

1712
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:45,010
don't know the route of who exactly was

1713
01:30:50,220 --> 01:30:47,440
putting them out there so I haven't come

1714
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:50,230
across something like a crime well I

1715
01:30:54,569 --> 01:30:52,570
don't know I've had I've had one that

1716
01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:54,579
would be questionable but we never got

1717
01:30:59,069 --> 01:30:56,320
our results were sent away and we never

1718
01:31:01,049 --> 01:30:59,079
got them back so we rarely hear hear

1719
01:31:02,549 --> 01:31:01,059
back I mean things when we were being

1720
01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:02,559
trained yes we would hear back but there

1721
01:31:07,890 --> 01:31:04,840
was certain stuff in the master level

1722
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:07,900
that was going somewhere else and we

1723
01:31:11,129 --> 01:31:09,730
were not we were not getting those ones

1724
01:31:14,729 --> 01:31:11,139
back and those ones had some of these

1725
01:31:16,259 --> 01:31:14,739
shifty things happening but yeah what

1726
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:16,269
would you do if you were using those

1727
01:31:18,989 --> 01:31:18,249
abilities and you saw something like

1728
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:18,999
that

1729
01:31:28,799 --> 01:31:21,610
I don't know when it's a controlled

1730
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:28,809
environment like this I would count on

1731
01:31:33,270 --> 01:31:31,570
that the the people arranging it would

1732
01:31:35,250 --> 01:31:33,280
would know what to do or there would

1733
01:31:38,759 --> 01:31:35,260
there would be sort of a chain of people

1734
01:31:41,489 --> 01:31:38,769
to figure that out but doing it on your

1735
01:31:44,029 --> 01:31:41,499
own I don't know because I mean these

1736
01:31:46,350 --> 01:31:44,039
abilities are available that's the thing

1737
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:46,360
this that's the thing that's so crazy

1738
01:31:55,140 --> 01:31:50,710
about remote viewing this is all all of

1739
01:31:56,370 --> 01:31:55,150
this available to all of us yeah I can

1740
01:31:59,459 --> 01:31:56,380
hardly wrap my head around that

1741
01:32:02,790 --> 01:31:59,469
sometimes I mean it is all available to

1742
01:32:06,359 --> 01:32:02,800
all of us these incredible psy abilities

1743
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:06,369
I just don't do it yeah I am going to up

1744
01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:07,199
it's all tech

1745
01:32:12,319 --> 01:32:09,840
to go through some remote viewing

1746
01:32:14,660 --> 01:32:12,329
training that I've been looking forward

1747
01:32:16,339 --> 01:32:14,670
to this for a very very long time and I

1748
01:32:19,879 --> 01:32:16,349
really want to experience this for

1749
01:32:22,189 --> 01:32:19,889
myself before we head to the break and

1750
01:32:24,169 --> 01:32:22,199
we'll talk about the 2600 miles when we

1751
01:32:26,089 --> 01:32:24,179
come back but I wanted to ask you about

1752
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:26,099
Ramtha the school have been like yeah

1753
01:32:33,620 --> 01:32:28,050
did you hang out did you hang out with

1754
01:32:35,689 --> 01:32:33,630
RZ j z jz r z did I say RZ you did say

1755
01:32:36,919 --> 01:32:35,699
RZ no you don't generally when you go to

1756
01:32:39,169 --> 01:32:36,929
the school and your student you don't

1757
01:32:43,759 --> 01:32:39,179
generally get to hang out with her it's

1758
01:32:46,910 --> 01:32:43,769
very very focused it's all about you

1759
01:32:49,939 --> 01:32:46,920
know working yourself working your mind

1760
01:32:52,310 --> 01:32:49,949
and proving that you can do these

1761
01:32:54,799 --> 01:32:52,320
extraordinary feats to yourself so it's

1762
01:32:57,489 --> 01:32:54,809
not really about having access to her

1763
01:32:59,560 --> 01:32:57,499
it's it's really about this deep

1764
01:33:08,350 --> 01:32:59,570
relationship of building this

1765
01:33:12,859 --> 01:33:08,360
subconscious inner world and creating

1766
01:33:16,399 --> 01:33:12,869
outcomes that again are paradigm

1767
01:33:18,140 --> 01:33:16,409
worldview changing and empowering really

1768
01:33:20,270 --> 01:33:18,150
really empowering at least that's how I

1769
01:33:22,549 --> 01:33:20,280
I took it away or how I took that away

1770
01:33:23,239 --> 01:33:22,559
yeah so you didn't get a chance to hang

1771
01:33:26,689 --> 01:33:23,249
out with jay-z

1772
01:33:28,969 --> 01:33:26,699
I did not hmm

1773
01:33:31,549 --> 01:33:28,979
I did not get a chance to hang out with

1774
01:33:34,370 --> 01:33:31,559
jay-z did you see her at contact in the

1775
01:33:36,709 --> 01:33:34,380
desert I did she actually sat at our

1776
01:33:38,509 --> 01:33:36,719
table those tables were so wide we

1777
01:33:42,379 --> 01:33:38,519
didn't get to really talk to her but I

1778
01:33:43,879 --> 01:33:42,389
got to talk to her briefly and yeah it

1779
01:33:48,649 --> 01:33:43,889
was really nice but I never really had

1780
01:33:50,029 --> 01:33:48,659
before and when she's been around you

1781
01:33:54,169 --> 01:33:50,039
know most the time she's been channeling

1782
01:33:55,219 --> 01:33:54,179
so it's and it is a very this is anyone

1783
01:33:58,100 --> 01:33:55,229
who's been to the school who's listening

1784
01:34:00,049 --> 01:33:58,110
out there will know this it it's gonna

1785
01:34:02,839 --> 01:34:00,059
be hard to believe for others but it is

1786
01:34:05,810 --> 01:34:02,849
a very different experience being around

1787
01:34:08,930 --> 01:34:05,820
her and being around her when she's

1788
01:34:14,959 --> 01:34:08,940
ramped that there is a feeling that is

1789
01:34:18,109 --> 01:34:14,969
so masculine and dominant and huge when

1790
01:34:21,020 --> 01:34:18,119
she is channeling it is you it's like

1791
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:21,030
your physiology is registering it

1792
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:24,330
and the voice in the accent too as well

1793
01:34:30,590 --> 01:34:28,080
I find really fascinating it is it is

1794
01:34:33,650 --> 01:34:30,600
fascinating but even just the feeling of

1795
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:33,660
it and I've always considered ramza the

1796
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:35,520
slap in the face channel you know it's

1797
01:34:39,230 --> 01:34:38,730
always its business its business yes it

1798
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:39,240
is

1799
01:34:46,130 --> 01:34:42,090
and so we'll come back in just a minute

1800
01:34:47,630 --> 01:34:46,140
and we'll talk about the 2600 miles with

1801
01:34:52,230 --> 01:34:47,640
Tracy garbage this is fade to black

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Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jim E Church this is a

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black

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heaven girls Jimmy Church I guess

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tonight Tracy Garbett she is she has a

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bachelor's degree in psychology and

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International Studies at the University

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of South Florida and st. Petersburg and

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she's also a professionally trained

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remote viewer and a lifelong contactee

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and right before the break we started to

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talk about some of her remote viewing

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and one specific experience that span

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2600 miles and through the point of view

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the POV of someone else now you got me

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here Tracy I am right I want to know

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exactly what went down has this happened

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more than once that's just a yes or no

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question but has this happened more than

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once yes but for me this one I'll

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explain why but this one was the most

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extraordinary one okay all right so what

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happened okay so this is what we call an

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outbound er an outbound er is when you

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have a person planted somewhere in the

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world at a certain time and you have

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agreed to remote-view them so this is

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this is setup okay so I didn't know

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where this person was and you're also

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trying to determine if the person is

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male or female and and this type of

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thing so you you go through the process

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and as I said the process is this is a

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series of questions and going deep

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you're sort of you know essentially

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quieting the left brain and allowing the

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right brain to reach out I'm

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oversimplifying here but and and just

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with intent go to your target so this

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what began to happen I began to smell

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smell the area I could smell that there

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was water so it was coming and very

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slowly I could I began to sort of feel

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droplets of water

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the thing that's so interesting it was

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experiencial feeling droplets of water

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on my face in such a way that I could

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tell I was this person or I was

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experiencing experiencing it as I was

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sitting feeling a fountain blowing

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gently on my face then I could it's so

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it's so unusual but I could smell the

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staleness of the water I could almost

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feel the texture of the concrete that

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was surrounding the water with the mossy

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this mossy smell I could tell I was it

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was sort of a contained body of water

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and and this is the thing or feeling

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senses can tell you all of this unusual

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information for example how big you know

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or how you know sort of the general

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diameter of this place so I'm not at

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this point I'm not seeing anything I'm

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feeling it I'm smelling goose poop like

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I'm you know I I know I'm in a park and

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I can but it's just the way it builds up

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I am noticing outside of the park and

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again I'm not looking I'm feeling this

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it's it's hard to describe but I could

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feel that there were buildings

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surrounding this water park and I knew

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that I was in an urban environment I was

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in a city it was in the middle of a city

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a water park in the middle of the city

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every fiber of my being new it's like I

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knew exactly where I was

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it's really strange even though I'd

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never been there before you know when I

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listen to you describe that you I think

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everybody knows immediately when you're

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in the presence of a fountain because

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all of those things come into play right

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the myth

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the drug list the sound the the concrete

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the smell of a fountain the smell of

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what concrete all of these sensory

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things come into play and you know when

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you're next to a fountain yeah you know

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these things and so Wow Wow okay so what

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happened what's fascinating is you start

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to feel the creatures around you know

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that there's fish and that they're swans

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or good gooses you know you can feel

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these you can feel the trees then the

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visual started kicking him for me after

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the experiential and I had a very strong

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impression of what the fountain looked

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like the exact shape where it was in

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front of me and even the how the spouts

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of the fountain how wide that was the

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direction that it was going you know is

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one solid spout going up and over to the

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side and because this was pre-arranged

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there were some photos that we were able

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to see at the end of this so the reveal

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happens well before the reveal are you

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are you drawing am i drawing yeah are

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you drawing what yours is

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we are drawing this is all being written

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down on paper writing all of these

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things as we perceive and then you're

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you're going back inside perceiving more

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writing it down writing it down writing

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it down then I just want to say all of a

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sudden I see this compact open and I'm

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looking back at a female eye with makeup

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oh shut up oh this is cool okay so the

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reveal happens and when it was about to

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happen

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did you grab my shoulder and say oh wait

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till you see this hold on Ola Ola

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did you draw the compact I wrote it down

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yeah you worked out okay cool cool okay

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okay or at that part of the story so

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anyways the reveal happens and it's

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amazing like it's the fountain is exact

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and again this is not to prove to

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anybody else has proved to me like I was

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absolutely Wow

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you know

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the fountain was exact this was a large

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water park in the middle of a city you

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know so this ends up being Orlando oh

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okay

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being Orlando I'm living in Canada at

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the time here's another weird thing

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years later I end up moving to Orlando

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by a weird set of circumstances I never

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I'm Canadian I never I never ever

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thought I would be living in the States

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I end up moving to this place I end up

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at a meet-up I end up meeting that woman

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and I was so excited I went for lunch

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with her and brought the remote views

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and but when we were getting when we

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were doing it at the time the only thing

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that I you know the reveal had I'm sorry

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the reveal happens they tell you

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everything you see everything but one

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thing I didn't tell was the compact you

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know I was a little self-conscious I

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thought what if I'm wrong I was so

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specific about that I just didn't say it

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out loud but so when I moved to Orlando

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and I meet this woman we go out for

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lunch I tell her all about the remote

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view I'm sitting there with her and I

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tell her about the compact and she says

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oh my god I never told anyone I pulled

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out a small compact just in case someone

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could see me so she what does this tell

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us I was looking through someone's eyes

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and we can look through someone's eyes

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through this type of a distance you know

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thousands of miles away away what she is

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is feeling what she is smelling what she

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is seeing and even an action that she

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took looking at herself in seeing that

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perfectly when you saw her face and her

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eyes what what what what what went

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through your mind well you know I've

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seen weird things like this before and

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the types of visions that I've had so I

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wasn't I mean that wasn't seeing

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something like that wasn't so shocking

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but it but it I guess having a vision

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once those talking but seeing a person

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back at me there's a little bit of doubt

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that runs through your mind but on the

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other hand a lot of us know when you

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know something is right you know

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like you feel it in your body and a part

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of me knew this is that's her eye

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looking at me oh my god she's woman

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she's a woman it's a you know I could

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see her it was it was shocking it's what

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it was did you go to the fountain yes

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yes okay so then I went there you know I

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went to that spot it was called Lake

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Eola in Orlando and so it's this

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beautiful park and so even being there I

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can tell you I couldn't even write down

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close enough I can only know myself the

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the depth of experience that I was

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having and that and the exactness of

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mind-blowing mind-blowing to me like

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validating to me that yeah there's

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something going on here there is

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something huge available to us and what

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you know what oh my gosh like again

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Society science has not got this you

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know I know I I have watched some

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amazing remote viewers go through their

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stuff and I've interviewed them about

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you know different projects that they

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have worked on and I am so fascinated

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with us and not only with the

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possibility of the CIA using it for

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whatever which they should I or I think

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any law-enforcement agency should use it

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but there's that but there's also the

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offworld implications of it certainly

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throughout history and going back and

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and looking at different events where

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that we don't have any witnesses that

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are alive for today maybe seeking out

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those answers too as well I find it

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completely fascinating and I do want to

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learn how to do it and I think that we

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all are born with that ability if you

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choose to go and learn

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you may be fascinated with with what you

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have inside of you

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I totally agree I think not only is it

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good for those things but it is I think

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it's a worthwhile experiment on our own

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minds a mental exercise you know I think

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there is so much available to us and we

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don't really go there we just sort of

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you know some people would say we we run

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on the hamster wheel and but there is

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all this available and I just it I do

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believe it is available to all of us as

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well I do believe this is just a matter

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of relaxing and satisfying the left

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brain so that it just relaxes enough at

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the right brain as I was saying before

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it can reach out into these perception

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and perceive and you know this whole

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thing you know I haven't even talked

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about the left brain right brain thank

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you very much but makes me wonder if the

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right brain I'm oversimplifying the

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right brain thing but is some sort of

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doorway that is available to all these

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realms and could it be the doorway that

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they contact us through you know I've

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had a lot of thoughts about this in

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terms of experiencers and people who are

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having sightings and the left and the

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right brain and I keep coming back to

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this question it doesn't mean I have it

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it's just um it's a curiosity and remote

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viewing is really you know thinking

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about remote viewing has really brought

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this to the forefront for me you know

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well the the other part about not only

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remote viewing but all of the other

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aspects of the supernatural and what

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falls underneath that umbrella whether

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it's a near-death experience or ghost or

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an apparition or the the being that

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showed up in your living room

2131
01:52:00,770 --> 01:51:57,180
to remote viewing right out-of-body

2132
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:00,780
experiences hypnosis the whole thing it

2133
01:52:08,030 --> 01:52:05,730
all it's all connected 1 & 2 if science

2134
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:08,040
continues down the road that they are on

2135
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:12,090
right now then one of these dominoes

2136
01:52:18,260 --> 01:52:15,330
Falls Tracy they all fall right they all

2137
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:18,270
fall and and this world is is going to

2138
01:52:24,440 --> 01:52:21,690
be shown very quickly in short order

2139
01:52:26,090 --> 01:52:24,450
that things aren't what they seem and

2140
01:52:29,870 --> 01:52:26,100
that there is something else

2141
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:29,880
to wonder about and to ponder yeah and

2142
01:52:33,140 --> 01:52:31,170
you know I just want to ask you so do

2143
01:52:35,330 --> 01:52:33,150
you think this is experiences are

2144
01:52:37,940 --> 01:52:35,340
happening to more and more people I do

2145
01:52:39,710 --> 01:52:37,950
well I I do I do believe that and

2146
01:52:43,390 --> 01:52:39,720
there's there's another part to this

2147
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:43,400
that I think is is really fascinating

2148
01:52:49,580 --> 01:52:46,800
the we've gone through about two or

2149
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:49,590
three phases in humanity one if we go

2150
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:52,410
back safe you know a very simple 5,000

2151
01:52:56,060 --> 01:52:55,410
years ago 3,000 BC you know at the start

2152
01:52:58,100 --> 01:52:56,070
of everything

2153
01:53:00,860 --> 01:52:58,110
allegedly okay let's course knowledge

2154
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:00,870
but let's go back 5,000 years 5,000

2155
01:53:04,250 --> 01:53:03,840
years ago two basic questions were going

2156
01:53:20,090 --> 01:53:04,260
on

2157
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:20,100
through a phase of which partially

2158
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:21,690
continues to this day

2159
01:53:27,980 --> 01:53:25,290
that we are alone in the universe right

2160
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:27,990
that that's it yeah and and that you

2161
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:31,530
know what maybe we just die that there

2162
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:34,650
isn't anything else out there and and

2163
01:53:40,370 --> 01:53:37,890
that that there is a large segment of

2164
01:53:44,270 --> 01:53:40,380
this population today Tracy that doesn't

2165
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:44,280
care right now they really these things

2166
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:46,890
that are so fascinating that we're

2167
01:53:52,930 --> 01:53:50,970
always questioned that today so many

2168
01:53:55,310 --> 01:53:52,940
just want to get on the treadmill

2169
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:55,320
provide for their family which is fine

2170
01:54:00,440 --> 01:53:58,080
get up go to work and and and come home

2171
01:54:01,850 --> 01:54:00,450
watch some news watch a couple of

2172
01:54:04,460 --> 01:54:01,860
sitcoms go to bed and do it all over

2173
01:54:05,379 --> 01:54:04,470
again and they drive around and walk

2174
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:05,389
around all

2175
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:08,050
day long not thinking about these things

2176
01:54:13,089 --> 01:54:11,360
and that blows that blows my mind now is

2177
01:54:14,949 --> 01:54:13,099
new then there's all of us who we just

2178
01:54:16,179 --> 01:54:14,959
can't stop thinking about it and trying

2179
01:54:18,129 --> 01:54:16,189
to come up with different ways that we

2180
01:54:22,810 --> 01:54:18,139
can explore it right yeah and today

2181
01:54:25,810 --> 01:54:22,820
today now that we have not only these

2182
01:54:28,299 --> 01:54:25,820
days of disclosure and and what is going

2183
01:54:30,370 --> 01:54:28,309
on with with mass media and the UFO

2184
01:54:32,859 --> 01:54:30,380
question but the search for life in the

2185
01:54:35,500 --> 01:54:32,869
universe and exoplanets these are these

2186
01:54:37,750 --> 01:54:35,510
are fast radio bursts these are things

2187
01:54:40,899 --> 01:54:37,760
that are in the headlines now every

2188
01:54:42,639 --> 01:54:40,909
single day and it is strongly suggesting

2189
01:54:46,620 --> 01:54:42,649
that things aren't what they seem and I

2190
01:54:50,290 --> 01:54:46,630
think that those out there that were

2191
01:54:52,299 --> 01:54:50,300
appearing to be closed off have been

2192
01:54:55,239 --> 01:54:52,309
wondering about all of this and I think

2193
01:54:58,449 --> 01:54:55,249
that now everybody's starting to wake up

2194
01:55:00,429 --> 01:54:58,459
and I really to answer your question

2195
01:55:03,939 --> 01:55:00,439
directly I think that we are in a shift

2196
01:55:06,219 --> 01:55:03,949
I can feel it when my own family who

2197
01:55:09,639 --> 01:55:06,229
never they they all know what I do for a

2198
01:55:11,379 --> 01:55:09,649
living trust me right they know yeah

2199
01:55:13,899 --> 01:55:11,389
they can hear me on the radio they can

2200
01:55:17,139 --> 01:55:13,909
watch me on television they know what I

2201
01:55:20,020 --> 01:55:17,149
do but they don't talk to me about it

2202
01:55:22,959 --> 01:55:20,030
they don't they don't and so when the

2203
01:55:26,620 --> 01:55:22,969
New York Times bust out with that

2204
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:26,630
article back in December and now it's on

2205
01:55:30,069 --> 01:55:28,010
the news it's on the radio it's

2206
01:55:33,009 --> 01:55:30,079
everywhere and for the first time my

2207
01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:33,019
family was like well come on we knew we

2208
01:55:36,969 --> 01:55:34,880
weren't alone I was like oh really you

2209
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:36,979
want to talk about this now what about

2210
01:55:41,979 --> 01:55:39,530
the last five years you guys right but

2211
01:55:44,469 --> 01:55:41,989
but you know and it was so funny how

2212
01:55:45,969 --> 01:55:44,479
they just took it in stride and I think

2213
01:55:47,409 --> 01:55:45,979
that's an example of everything else

2214
01:55:50,589 --> 01:55:47,419
that's out there I think there is a

2215
01:55:53,319 --> 01:55:50,599
shift going on I can feel it what does

2216
01:55:56,439 --> 01:55:53,329
it validate for you do you need the mass

2217
01:56:00,569 --> 01:55:56,449
media to talk about disclosure and the

2218
01:56:03,850 --> 01:56:00,579
UFO question to help you along as well

2219
01:56:06,939 --> 01:56:03,860
you know I could easily say no I you

2220
01:56:09,339 --> 01:56:06,949
know the reconciled this myself but no I

2221
01:56:11,379 --> 01:56:09,349
think it's easier for all of us and I

2222
01:56:14,609 --> 01:56:11,389
think you know we'd be lying if we

2223
01:56:17,649 --> 01:56:14,619
didn't say we want that validation and

2224
01:56:19,159 --> 01:56:17,659
it does I mean you know I was just in

2225
01:56:22,649 --> 01:56:19,169
academia and

2226
01:56:24,299 --> 01:56:22,659
honestly it's the biggest taboo and you

2227
01:56:26,609 --> 01:56:24,309
can't talk about it everything is

2228
01:56:31,919 --> 01:56:26,619
dancing around these things so for that

2229
01:56:35,159 --> 01:56:31,929
alone just to be able to be a little

2230
01:56:39,569 --> 01:56:35,169
more outward especially in that context

2231
01:56:42,299 --> 01:56:39,579
I would want it I would definitely want

2232
01:56:44,969 --> 01:56:42,309
it and it helps to open up the dialog as

2233
01:56:47,159 --> 01:56:44,979
you were just saying you know and that's

2234
01:56:49,290 --> 01:56:47,169
really important that that dialogue is

2235
01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:49,300
really important it's gonna become more

2236
01:56:53,580 --> 01:56:52,239
important when more of those skeptical

2237
01:56:56,339 --> 01:56:53,590
people or more of those people who it

2238
01:56:58,439 --> 01:56:56,349
wasn't affecting begin having their own

2239
01:57:00,540 --> 01:56:58,449
experiences if he if it keeps on this

2240
01:57:03,419 --> 01:57:00,550
trajectory right yeah you know and

2241
01:57:05,250 --> 01:57:03,429
that's that's what I really enjoy and

2242
01:57:07,020 --> 01:57:05,260
what about and I'm gonna get back to

2243
01:57:12,779 --> 01:57:07,030
that in a second

2244
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:12,789
do you have skeptical friends yeah okay

2245
01:57:22,259 --> 01:57:16,719
so is this an opportunity for you to go

2246
01:57:23,909 --> 01:57:22,269
okay this is what in your face well you

2247
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:23,919
know what some of those friends have

2248
01:57:30,179 --> 01:57:26,649
dropped off you know it got to that

2249
01:57:32,099 --> 01:57:30,189
place where a lot of those have dropped

2250
01:57:35,009 --> 01:57:32,109
off and we'll see what happens moving

2251
01:57:38,339 --> 01:57:35,019
forward you know if this comes back

2252
01:57:41,669 --> 01:57:38,349
around but I had a lot of friends who

2253
01:57:42,899 --> 01:57:41,679
were you know willing to listen they

2254
01:57:44,219 --> 01:57:42,909
didn't fully believe they didn't know

2255
01:57:46,379 --> 01:57:44,229
what they believe but they were willing

2256
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:46,389
willing to listen and sort of keep this

2257
01:57:51,599 --> 01:57:49,570
the door open a crack and I think it'll

2258
01:57:57,540 --> 01:57:51,609
be wonderful for some of them that I

2259
01:58:00,029 --> 01:57:57,550
haven't seen to have start having this

2260
01:58:02,189 --> 01:58:00,039
dialogue again and see how much further

2261
01:58:05,849 --> 01:58:02,199
we go and what they've been thinking

2262
01:58:07,709 --> 01:58:05,859
about so yeah I'm excited about it I'm

2263
01:58:09,299 --> 01:58:07,719
really excited about it you mentioned

2264
01:58:11,159 --> 01:58:09,309
something earlier I want to go back and

2265
01:58:14,459 --> 01:58:11,169
visit really quick you said that your

2266
01:58:19,439 --> 01:58:14,469
mom your mom is watching ancient aliens

2267
01:58:22,349 --> 01:58:19,449
and which i think is great but I think

2268
01:58:25,409 --> 01:58:22,359
it goes beyond that in and where ancient

2269
01:58:29,279 --> 01:58:25,419
aliens for the last eight years nine

2270
01:58:32,429 --> 01:58:29,289
years has exposed all of these questions

2271
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:32,439
not not only about history but ET and

2272
01:58:37,170 --> 01:58:34,210
Jen

2273
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:37,180
to the world to those that wouldn't

2274
01:58:42,210 --> 01:58:40,090
necessarily have ever pursued this but

2275
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:42,220
it has certainly helped the effort and

2276
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:44,050
you see it with your mom do you think

2277
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:47,770
that those changes are as as as real as

2278
01:58:52,710 --> 01:58:50,320
I think they are do I think that what is

2279
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:52,720
is really these changes you know with

2280
01:58:57,030 --> 01:58:54,610
those out there that would never pond or

2281
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:57,040
we've said ponder tonight now like 10

2282
01:59:00,450 --> 01:58:57,490
times

2283
01:59:02,300 --> 01:59:00,460
I never the night I love that word it's

2284
01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:02,310
a great word

2285
01:59:10,650 --> 01:59:06,400
Mills out there to ponder as a subject

2286
01:59:11,730 --> 01:59:10,660
that they would never consider sorry can

2287
01:59:13,620 --> 01:59:11,740
you just repeat the question one more

2288
01:59:16,170 --> 01:59:13,630
time I don't know why cut out again for

2289
01:59:18,750 --> 01:59:16,180
me oh it's cutting out for you okay

2290
01:59:21,330 --> 01:59:18,760
well I'll give it one more try do you

2291
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:21,340
think that well let's go beyond ancient

2292
01:59:29,670 --> 01:59:26,410
aliens actually all of the UFO and

2293
01:59:30,330 --> 01:59:29,680
paranormal programming that is on cable

2294
01:59:33,660 --> 01:59:30,340
television

2295
01:59:35,670 --> 01:59:33,670
this exposure to the world to those out

2296
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:35,680
there that would never pursue it on the

2297
01:59:42,150 --> 01:59:38,400
road yeah oh yes yes yes definitely

2298
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:42,160
shows like ancient aliens and hangar one

2299
01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:44,170
and I mean there's so many out there now

2300
01:59:48,810 --> 01:59:46,960
they have been so helpful in opening up

2301
01:59:53,460 --> 01:59:48,820
the dialogue and you know there's a

2302
01:59:55,710 --> 01:59:53,470
funny thing out there but sometimes all

2303
01:59:58,500 --> 01:59:55,720
it takes is high production values to

2304
02:00:02,010 --> 01:59:58,510
get I know its attention right but it's

2305
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:02,020
a truth you know a marketing truth but

2306
02:00:07,380 --> 02:00:04,960
more people are listening more people

2307
02:00:12,410 --> 02:00:07,390
are I'm going to use contemplating this

2308
02:00:16,170 --> 02:00:12,420
time these these other realities these I

2309
02:00:19,470 --> 02:00:16,180
these ideas they're they're just willing

2310
02:00:21,810 --> 02:00:19,480
to listen and I think people are willing

2311
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:21,820
to go back into some of the Ancients and

2312
02:00:29,790 --> 02:00:26,170
seeing some of the parallels these you

2313
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:29,800
know seeming coincidences and it is

2314
02:00:40,590 --> 02:00:32,770
really helped in opening up the dialogue

2315
02:00:43,650 --> 02:00:40,600
and giving people some seeds to begin

2316
02:00:46,479 --> 02:00:43,660
conversations you know it's a bridge

2317
02:00:48,820 --> 02:00:46,489
it's really building a bridge

2318
02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:48,830
and so I'm grateful that that's out

2319
02:00:53,860 --> 02:00:51,290
there and my mother used to be scared of

2320
02:00:56,260 --> 02:00:53,870
this stuff and those shows helped her

2321
02:00:58,990 --> 02:00:56,270
come along you know they're they're

2322
02:01:01,720 --> 02:00:59,000
gentle sometimes they're they're not but

2323
02:01:05,620 --> 02:01:01,730
they can be gentle some of them have you

2324
02:01:12,130 --> 02:01:05,630
had a sighting in the sky yourself no I

2325
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:12,140
haven't not well okay so when we were at

2326
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:15,170
contact in the desert I think the year

2327
02:01:22,959 --> 02:01:20,110
looking through the night-vision goggles

2328
02:01:25,090 --> 02:01:22,969
I just I didn't hear the beginning so

2329
02:01:27,580 --> 02:01:25,100
there were things that I saw that we're

2330
02:01:30,070 --> 02:01:27,590
moving that looked so incredible but I

2331
02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:30,080
just wasn't sure my mind was you know so

2332
02:01:38,979 --> 02:01:37,930
because I saw a lot of crazy stuff

2333
02:01:41,050 --> 02:01:38,989
through those goggles

2334
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:41,060
yeah there she that's a that's a

2335
02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:42,530
game-changer when you see that for the

2336
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:47,690
first time but two years ago at contact

2337
02:01:52,750 --> 02:01:51,650
when I was out with with my peeps we

2338
02:01:55,959 --> 02:01:52,760
were out there on the cliff and there

2339
02:01:59,500 --> 02:01:55,969
was probably 200 250 people out there we

2340
02:02:04,590 --> 02:01:59,510
had the most amazing siding which has

2341
02:02:09,550 --> 02:02:04,600
been dubbed the Zorro and it was a a

2342
02:02:11,380 --> 02:02:09,560
backwards Z in the sky that was that was

2343
02:02:15,610 --> 02:02:11,390
carved out of the sky with this like

2344
02:02:18,220 --> 02:02:15,620
aqua marine coloured craft and it went

2345
02:02:20,590 --> 02:02:18,230
backwards okay so the Z is started from

2346
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:20,600
the right on the top of the Z right

2347
02:02:25,390 --> 02:02:22,250
started on the right went to the left

2348
02:02:27,970 --> 02:02:25,400
went zigzag down and then took off to

2349
02:02:30,790 --> 02:02:27,980
the left and shot out across the sky and

2350
02:02:32,979 --> 02:02:30,800
it was huge Tracy it took up a big chunk

2351
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:32,989
of the sky and you should have heard

2352
02:02:38,110 --> 02:02:35,810
everybody screaming and you weren't

2353
02:02:42,700 --> 02:02:38,120
there because you would have just said I

2354
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:42,710
saw the Z but I was I was there but I

2355
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:46,610
was not out that night it was really

2356
02:02:51,940 --> 02:02:49,010
disappointed I've heard this there were

2357
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:51,950
so many people I wasn't there yeah the

2358
02:02:55,479 --> 02:02:55,010
the screams which I was must have been

2359
02:02:57,729 --> 02:02:55,489
amazed

2360
02:03:00,880 --> 02:02:57,739
yeah it was it was really really cool

2361
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:00,890
well let's take a break and when we come

2362
02:03:04,540 --> 02:03:04,130
back everybody we're gonna do the big

2363
02:03:06,910 --> 02:03:04,550
reveal

2364
02:03:08,890 --> 02:03:06,920
are you ready for that Tracy will do

2365
02:03:11,770 --> 02:03:08,900
getting so ready we're gonna do the big

2366
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:11,780
reveal next with Tracy Garvin REO

2367
02:03:15,729 --> 02:03:14,000
signatures Tracy wonderful conversation

2368
02:03:17,500 --> 02:03:15,739
but it's about to get really really cool

2369
02:03:20,770 --> 02:03:17,510
in just a second everybody stay right

2370
02:03:23,670 --> 02:03:20,780
there the big reveal is next stay with

2371
02:03:29,770 --> 02:03:27,540
[Music]

2372
02:03:34,650 --> 02:03:29,780
everybody's rock alpha the mental guard

2373
02:03:41,290 --> 02:03:37,960
this is kg are a digital broadcasting

2374
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:41,300
station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren

2375
02:03:47,710 --> 02:03:45,110
Arkansas okay nurse let's get this man

2376
02:03:50,020 --> 02:03:47,720
to the ER stat right away doctor we see

2377
02:03:52,420 --> 02:03:50,030
this every day heart attack or angina

2378
02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:52,430
pain due to blocked and clogged arteries

2379
02:03:56,830 --> 02:03:55,010
chelation can remove obstructions or

2380
02:03:58,840 --> 02:03:56,840
blockages from arteries and help avoid

2381
02:04:01,030 --> 02:03:58,850
painful and expensive surgery

2382
02:04:02,980 --> 02:04:01,040
now there's angio prim it's a liquid

2383
02:04:04,930 --> 02:04:02,990
oral chelation product that you take

2384
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:04,940
with juice you start to feel the results

2385
02:04:09,430 --> 02:04:07,490
fast angio primm increases blood flow

2386
02:04:11,590 --> 02:04:09,440
all over the body and that means more

2387
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:11,600
energy and strength to take on the day

2388
02:04:16,270 --> 02:04:14,330
with less aches and pains 60 years of

2389
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:16,280
research has gone into chelation and

2390
02:04:21,730 --> 02:04:19,490
angiogram is the result a safe and easy

2391
02:04:23,890 --> 02:04:21,740
way to unblock your veins and arteries

2392
02:04:25,750 --> 02:04:23,900
from build-up that slow circulation

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[Music]

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02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:41,710
welcome back fade to black

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I'm Neil Shubin church our guest tonight

2457
02:07:50,990 --> 02:07:45,420
Tracy Garvin

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02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:51,000
now I've introduced her to all of you

2459
02:07:57,560 --> 02:07:55,050
out there very dynamic conversation

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02:08:00,430 --> 02:07:57,570
tonight and you can follow me on twitter

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02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:00,440
at a church radio I'm watching Twitter

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you know just just blazing right here

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02:08:14,090 --> 02:08:08,130
and now this is the big reveal

2464
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:14,100
now Tracy stay put stay put

2465
02:08:18,860 --> 02:08:16,110
but you're sitting next to somebody

2466
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:18,870
right now and I would like to bring him

2467
02:08:28,430 --> 02:08:22,610
on and it is Richard bleep and Dolan

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02:08:30,410 --> 02:08:28,440
Richard how are you hi Jimmy I've been

2469
02:08:33,170 --> 02:08:30,420
enjoying the interview all evening

2470
02:08:35,570 --> 02:08:33,180
it was pretty dynamic but what I would

2471
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:35,580
like for you to do right now is answer

2472
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:41,930
this question who is Tracy Garbett Wow

2473
02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:46,290
Tracy's someone that has just turned my

2474
02:08:51,980 --> 02:08:48,170
life around

2475
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:51,990
for the past two years since we met at

2476
02:08:57,920 --> 02:08:54,330
contact in the desert actually in 2016

2477
02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:57,930
which was the the the week of your UFO

2478
02:09:01,280 --> 02:08:59,280
sighting that you never stopped talking

2479
02:09:03,890 --> 02:09:01,290
about mm-hmm

2480
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:03,900
the weekend that I saw some UFOs with

2481
02:09:11,540 --> 02:09:05,810
you through night vision mm-hmm and

2482
02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:11,550
Tracy and I met at that event and we

2483
02:09:18,010 --> 02:09:14,610
have actually never stopped talking

2484
02:09:22,130 --> 02:09:18,020
since we had a we had a four-hour

2485
02:09:26,350 --> 02:09:22,140
conversation that evening went one of

2486
02:09:28,700 --> 02:09:26,360
the evenings and with a couple of days

2487
02:09:30,290 --> 02:09:28,710
after that we didn't really were not in

2488
02:09:32,450 --> 02:09:30,300
touch with each other and then just a

2489
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,460
few days after we got home we just

2490
02:09:37,550 --> 02:09:34,320
started communicating and it has been

2491
02:09:40,130 --> 02:09:37,560
one non-stop conversation ever since

2492
02:09:42,230 --> 02:09:40,140
pretty pretty cool when that happens and

2493
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:42,240
there's only one way to seal that deal

2494
02:09:49,820 --> 02:09:46,770
right yeah so we got married

2495
02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:49,830
about a month ago in Australia so yes

2496
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:52,650
that's how we sealed the deal it's uh

2497
02:10:00,560 --> 02:09:55,770
it's I'm so happy for the two of you and

2498
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:00,570
for the audience now to understand what

2499
02:10:06,380 --> 02:10:02,970
the conversation was about tonight and

2500
02:10:08,270 --> 02:10:06,390
and who she is for this community and to

2501
02:10:11,060 --> 02:10:08,280
you personally I think it's absolutely

2502
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:11,070
amazing and I've done this privately but

2503
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:12,890
I'm going to do this publicly now

2504
02:10:18,950 --> 02:10:16,050
congratulations to the two of you it's

2505
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:18,960
it's just been absolutely magic and to

2506
02:10:23,270 --> 02:10:21,330
watch the two of you are be around each

2507
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:23,280
other it's really cool and so

2508
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:26,490
congratulations thank you thanks so much

2509
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:29,010
you know thanks I'm just gonna say I've

2510
02:10:33,890 --> 02:10:30,810
had a lot of friends who have known me

2511
02:10:35,420 --> 02:10:33,900
for many years many years and every one

2512
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:35,430
of them has said my god you're just so

2513
02:10:42,020 --> 02:10:37,170
different these days and it's all for

2514
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:42,030
the better and I mean in a lot of ways I

2515
02:10:45,710 --> 02:10:43,440
just feel that this has been a very very

2516
02:10:49,820 --> 02:10:45,720
good thing for me I mean we work well

2517
02:10:53,030 --> 02:10:49,830
together like we this is ridiculous like

2518
02:10:54,770 --> 02:10:53,040
we are to call us two peas in a pod is

2519
02:10:57,530 --> 02:10:54,780
actually that doesn't even do is just as

2520
02:10:59,000 --> 02:10:57,540
we we're like together all that we never

2521
02:11:02,150 --> 02:10:59,010
get bored with each other we just never

2522
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:02,160
get tired by the end of the day we're

2523
02:11:05,690 --> 02:11:03,810
still like we want to stay up because

2524
02:11:08,540 --> 02:11:05,700
it's just too much fun we're going to

2525
02:11:12,610 --> 02:11:08,550
sleep my god is it because she's

2526
02:11:15,470 --> 02:11:12,620
Canadian or do you have a deep-rooted

2527
02:11:17,870 --> 02:11:15,480
thing that you can't get rid of yeah

2528
02:11:19,340 --> 02:11:17,880
absolutely I'm I was born on Canada Day

2529
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:19,350
I was trying to take that away from that

2530
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:22,050
nation ever since yes I clearly have

2531
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:24,330
I've got some kind of Canadian thing

2532
02:11:30,220 --> 02:11:25,890
happening let's just put that right out

2533
02:11:33,170 --> 02:11:30,230
there that's another understatement yeah

2534
02:11:34,910 --> 02:11:33,180
this is actually true so I I get a

2535
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:34,920
little goofy about the Canada thing yeah

2536
02:11:40,340 --> 02:11:37,290
when I met her when I met her at contact

2537
02:11:43,580 --> 02:11:40,350
two years ago it was after one of my

2538
02:11:45,500 --> 02:11:43,590
lectures and in fact I not long before

2539
02:11:48,020 --> 02:11:45,510
that I had done a tour of Canada called

2540
02:11:49,850 --> 02:11:48,030
the modern knowledge tour and during

2541
02:11:52,100 --> 02:11:49,860
that I had met a couple of very

2542
02:11:54,260 --> 02:11:52,110
interesting experiences in Vancouver and

2543
02:11:57,740 --> 02:11:54,270
I happen to mention that on stage

2544
02:12:00,890 --> 02:11:57,750
well Tracey had spent her entire adult

2545
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:00,900
life in Vancouver and

2546
02:12:07,459 --> 02:12:03,330
and so we get out of we're leaving this

2547
02:12:10,820 --> 02:12:07,469
crowded the sanctuary in that room in at

2548
02:12:13,220 --> 02:12:10,830
that event and she just we're just stuck

2549
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:13,230
there and the exit she awkwardly says oh

2550
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:15,840
good lecture I had some experiences in

2551
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:17,370
Vancouver as well and I immediately

2552
02:12:30,020 --> 02:12:23,810
turned her and I'm like oh an

2553
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:30,030
experiencer she had she had her guard up

2554
02:12:33,320 --> 02:12:32,130
we'll just say we'll put it mildly she

2555
02:12:36,110 --> 02:12:33,330
had her guard up against me

2556
02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:36,120
and but there was a reason yeah there

2557
02:12:41,090 --> 02:12:39,840
you know there was a reason I had met

2558
02:12:42,979 --> 02:12:41,100
her a few years before I didn't even

2559
02:12:45,260 --> 02:12:42,989
know I couldn't had no memory of having

2560
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:45,270
met her because she wasn't interested in

2561
02:12:51,410 --> 02:12:49,170
me so I put it out of my mind and met

2562
02:12:54,620 --> 02:12:51,420
her this other time and she remembered

2563
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:54,630
me I had no memory and that was kind of

2564
02:12:59,000 --> 02:12:57,090
another funny thing to our our

2565
02:13:00,530 --> 02:12:59,010
connection but I was able to get her to

2566
02:13:02,479 --> 02:13:00,540
come to my table she comes in my table

2567
02:13:04,669 --> 02:13:02,489
like the next year later a day later I'm

2568
02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:04,679
just gonna say a day later cuz I didn't

2569
02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:11,520
want him to think anything and she's

2570
02:13:16,910 --> 02:13:14,159
like we'll see about that so she could a

2571
02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:16,920
day later she comes over

2572
02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:19,199
I've got like a about like a dozen

2573
02:13:23,899 --> 02:13:21,210
people like at my they're all around me

2574
02:13:26,810 --> 02:13:23,909
and I actually I put up my hand like a

2575
02:13:29,919 --> 02:13:26,820
stop sign to all of them I actually did

2576
02:13:31,459 --> 02:13:29,929
this like straight arm out that stopped

2577
02:13:33,860 --> 02:13:31,469
hi

2578
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:33,870
you know you guys sound like you're 15

2579
02:13:40,729 --> 02:13:37,770
right now you know you realize that this

2580
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:40,739
is everyday yeah I'm 15 years old

2581
02:13:45,649 --> 02:13:43,770
everyday and and she I wanted her to

2582
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:45,659
talk to me then and and she felt

2583
02:13:49,550 --> 02:13:47,850
embarrassed or she did want all the

2584
02:13:51,860 --> 02:13:49,560
attention on her and I really had to

2585
02:13:54,770 --> 02:13:51,870
it's strong armor for the for the phone

2586
02:13:57,590 --> 02:13:54,780
number just like don't she said no I'll

2587
02:13:59,570 --> 02:13:57,600
email you I said no don't email me yeah

2588
02:14:02,240 --> 02:13:59,580
I'll never see it I'll never see it so I

2589
02:14:04,250 --> 02:14:02,250
got her phone number anyway long story

2590
02:14:05,689 --> 02:14:04,260
short we had a conversation during that

2591
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:05,699
weekend and it turned out to be four

2592
02:14:11,300 --> 02:14:08,480
hours and we just absolutely hit it off

2593
02:14:14,530 --> 02:14:11,310
and that was it

2594
02:14:23,060 --> 02:14:14,540
well let me let me ask you this Richard

2595
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:23,070
I'm gonna go there that is this and I've

2596
02:14:27,439 --> 02:14:25,110
certainly said this about you both

2597
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:27,449
privately and publicly many many times

2598
02:14:35,209 --> 02:14:31,290
but you are pragmatic you are black and

2599
02:14:37,370 --> 02:14:35,219
white you want documents you want the

2600
02:14:40,220 --> 02:14:37,380
facts that's what you write about that's

2601
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:40,230
what you speak about and you are very

2602
02:14:46,430 --> 02:14:43,530
critical of a lot of things that don't

2603
02:14:49,189 --> 02:14:46,440
have that kind of stuff to back

2604
02:14:54,410 --> 02:14:49,199
something up but now you're married to

2605
02:14:58,250 --> 02:14:54,420
Tracy how has she changed you how has

2606
02:14:59,839 --> 02:14:58,260
she changed your view on some of these

2607
02:15:01,640 --> 02:14:59,849
other things that you may have been

2608
02:15:03,709 --> 02:15:01,650
pretty critical about over the years

2609
02:15:05,300 --> 02:15:03,719
well let me I'm glad you asked me this

2610
02:15:09,459 --> 02:15:05,310
because it gives me an opportunity to

2611
02:15:13,910 --> 02:15:09,469
bring some clarity to that issue so I

2612
02:15:17,330 --> 02:15:13,920
it's not quite accurate to say that I've

2613
02:15:19,310 --> 02:15:17,340
been critical of let's say remote

2614
02:15:24,290 --> 02:15:19,320
viewing in fact I've been interested in

2615
02:15:26,570 --> 02:15:24,300
remote viewing for 15 plus years and in

2616
02:15:30,740 --> 02:15:26,580
fact I lectured about it back in 2002

2617
02:15:32,810 --> 02:15:30,750
2003 I did a paper actually published

2618
02:15:35,479 --> 02:15:32,820
for the print version of phenomena

2619
02:15:37,729 --> 02:15:35,489
magazine way way back in those days on

2620
02:15:39,140 --> 02:15:37,739
remote viewing asking how is it possible

2621
02:15:39,950 --> 02:15:39,150
that it works because I knew that it did

2622
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:39,960
work mm-hmm

2623
02:15:43,609 --> 02:15:41,610
I had spent an evening in the home of

2624
02:15:46,430 --> 02:15:43,619
Ingo Swann probably the most famous

2625
02:15:48,260 --> 02:15:46,440
remote viewer ever mm-hmm and I knew how

2626
02:15:50,300 --> 02:15:48,270
put off I knew Russell Tarr the guys who

2627
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:50,310
developed the remote viewing program

2628
02:15:55,459 --> 02:15:52,770
back in the day I I've known Jill

2629
02:15:57,229 --> 02:15:55,469
mcmoneagle in Buchanan and rarely talked

2630
02:15:59,870 --> 02:15:57,239
with all of these people about what they

2631
02:16:01,790 --> 02:15:59,880
do and so let me just say like I never

2632
02:16:03,530 --> 02:16:01,800
needed to be convinced that that is real

2633
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:03,540
remote viewing is absolutely real and

2634
02:16:09,020 --> 02:16:06,810
the fact that it is real incidentally is

2635
02:16:10,669 --> 02:16:09,030
a challenge to our contemporary

2636
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:10,679
understanding of physics sure because

2637
02:16:16,010 --> 02:16:13,170
they're they're missing something really

2638
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:16,020
important so when people like Tracey are

2639
02:16:21,709 --> 02:16:18,690
able to see through the eyes of another

2640
02:16:24,979 --> 02:16:21,719
human being and sense the sensations of

2641
02:16:26,629 --> 02:16:24,989
another human being a continent hat you

2642
02:16:27,740 --> 02:16:26,639
know and on the other side of the

2643
02:16:30,140 --> 02:16:27,750
continent

2644
02:16:31,070 --> 02:16:30,150
that's not explainable in our physics

2645
02:16:33,950 --> 02:16:31,080
and that's the

2646
02:16:36,260 --> 02:16:33,960
that's the failing of our physics that's

2647
02:16:38,390 --> 02:16:36,270
not that's not crockery that's not

2648
02:16:40,970 --> 02:16:38,400
nonsense that's a failing a shortcoming

2649
02:16:42,860 --> 02:16:40,980
of our physics books we need to to do so

2650
02:16:45,590 --> 02:16:42,870
I've always felt this way now where I

2651
02:16:51,410 --> 02:16:45,600
have been critical and I'm still really

2652
02:16:54,830 --> 02:16:51,420
critical is when our field is surrounded

2653
02:16:58,160 --> 02:16:54,840
and deluged with claims that are that

2654
02:17:00,680 --> 02:16:58,170
are not only impossible to verify one

2655
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:00,690
way or the other but take on a kind of

2656
02:17:06,140 --> 02:17:05,040
cultish messianic quality and you know

2657
02:17:07,820 --> 02:17:06,150
what I'm talking about I've gone down

2658
02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:07,830
this road many times don't need to go

2659
02:17:13,220 --> 02:17:11,370
down it now right and so what I try to

2660
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:13,230
do is walk this grey there's a gray area

2661
02:17:18,590 --> 02:17:16,530
here and the gray area is there are

2662
02:17:20,720 --> 02:17:18,600
things in this world that we do not yet

2663
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:20,730
have the tools to explain scientifically

2664
02:17:26,150 --> 02:17:23,450
we just don't but they're they are real

2665
02:17:28,250 --> 02:17:26,160
so when we encounter that information do

2666
02:17:31,810 --> 02:17:28,260
we how do we deal with it as a real

2667
02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:31,820
question so my approach is I don't ever

2668
02:17:38,080 --> 02:17:34,130
offhandedly throw anything out

2669
02:17:41,060 --> 02:17:38,090
everything everything is into play but

2670
02:17:42,980 --> 02:17:41,070
that doesn't mean that I'm obligated to

2671
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:42,990
believe something just because it might

2672
02:17:48,050 --> 02:17:46,050
be true it can be true so I'm I'm

2673
02:17:49,820 --> 02:17:48,060
usually quite comfortable in a gray area

2674
02:17:51,350 --> 02:17:49,830
about a lot of things Stan Friedman

2675
02:17:53,960 --> 02:17:51,360
always had the best expression for it he

2676
02:17:55,910 --> 02:17:53,970
says he had a gray basket didn't know if

2677
02:17:58,640 --> 02:17:55,920
it's true or false and he'd never felt a

2678
02:18:00,230 --> 02:17:58,650
need to have a definitive answer and I'm

2679
02:18:02,390 --> 02:18:00,240
very similar in that way I don't feel a

2680
02:18:04,550 --> 02:18:02,400
need to have to have a definitive answer

2681
02:18:07,430 --> 02:18:04,560
on some of these issues a channeling for

2682
02:18:10,570 --> 02:18:07,440
example what wait wait wait wait now

2683
02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:10,580
let's go back to my question my question

2684
02:18:17,990 --> 02:18:15,570
was yeah how is she has she helped you

2685
02:18:22,810 --> 02:18:18,000
open your eyes and and maybe understand

2686
02:18:25,730 --> 02:18:22,820
things I actually I do believe so and

2687
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:25,740
you know one thing I have to say I mean

2688
02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:29,760
just she's prompted me to be a little

2689
02:18:38,020 --> 02:18:32,880
bit more sensitive in some of my

2690
02:18:40,220 --> 02:18:38,030
comments publicly about people and about

2691
02:18:40,500 --> 02:18:40,230
situations and I might have been in the

2692
02:18:45,300 --> 02:18:40,510
past

2693
02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:45,310
and it's really true because you know

2694
02:18:50,310 --> 02:18:47,110
it's one thing to be sensitive to

2695
02:18:51,570 --> 02:18:50,320
something theoretically and but it's

2696
02:18:52,770 --> 02:18:51,580
another thing when you're living with

2697
02:18:55,170 --> 02:18:52,780
someone when you're in love with someone

2698
02:18:58,560 --> 02:18:55,180
who's who is one of those people mm-hmm

2699
02:19:02,581 --> 02:18:58,570
and and when you know someone like me

2700
02:19:04,110 --> 02:19:02,591
comes down hard on somebody else because

2701
02:19:06,960 --> 02:19:04,120
I'm skeptical of their claims they can't

2702
02:19:10,621 --> 02:19:06,970
prove it whatever like I am I'm I do

2703
02:19:13,110 --> 02:19:10,631
recognize like my wife is one of these

2704
02:19:15,661 --> 02:19:13,120
people like she's had experiences but

2705
02:19:17,041 --> 02:19:15,671
her encounter with the being the

2706
02:19:19,680 --> 02:19:17,051
seven-foot-tall being that was in front

2707
02:19:22,470 --> 02:19:19,690
of her and and one of her friends she

2708
02:19:24,060 --> 02:19:22,480
can't prove that they cannot prove this

2709
02:19:25,411 --> 02:19:24,070
and there could be skeptics just coming

2710
02:19:26,371 --> 02:19:25,421
out of the woodwork saying that's BS

2711
02:19:29,730 --> 02:19:26,381
that's not true

2712
02:19:31,050 --> 02:19:29,740
and and the thing that remember is you

2713
02:19:34,430 --> 02:19:31,060
know people who come out with these

2714
02:19:36,331 --> 02:19:34,440
claims we're just human beings we're not

2715
02:19:38,161 --> 02:19:36,341
computer programs that don't have

2716
02:19:41,791 --> 02:19:38,171
feelings ever people have feelings and

2717
02:19:43,140 --> 02:19:41,801
it's a very rare person who's going to

2718
02:19:46,020 --> 02:19:43,150
be able to go out there in the world and

2719
02:19:51,650 --> 02:19:46,030
just withstand all of the critics coming

2720
02:19:54,871 --> 02:19:51,660
after them and so I I would say that I'm

2721
02:19:57,570 --> 02:19:54,881
always striving and especially since

2722
02:20:00,180 --> 02:19:57,580
being with Tracy to be a bit more

2723
02:20:01,980 --> 02:20:00,190
sensitive when I have individuals come

2724
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:01,990
up to me at an event for example which

2725
02:20:05,940 --> 02:20:03,490
happens all the time and they've got a

2726
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:05,950
story that I may not offer you know the

2727
02:20:12,451 --> 02:20:09,280
top of my head think is credible but I

2728
02:20:14,310 --> 02:20:12,461
will say I'm always trying to be civil

2729
02:20:16,261 --> 02:20:14,320
and polite and at least to give people

2730
02:20:19,980 --> 02:20:16,271
the opportunity for me to listen to them

2731
02:20:23,701 --> 02:20:19,990
so Tracy I think has just helped me

2732
02:20:25,350 --> 02:20:23,711
realize a little bit more those people

2733
02:20:27,930 --> 02:20:25,360
that sometimes I'm very critical of hey

2734
02:20:31,831 --> 02:20:27,940
they're human beings you know they're

2735
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:31,841
people and and my job isn't isn't always

2736
02:20:36,001 --> 02:20:33,730
to come down with my gavel and say this

2737
02:20:37,980 --> 02:20:36,011
is true this is false well it's like

2738
02:20:41,661 --> 02:20:37,990
anyone else has just tried my best to

2739
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:41,671
understand what is going on in this

2740
02:20:46,081 --> 02:20:43,570
incredible phenomenon that we're all

2741
02:20:48,060 --> 02:20:46,091
interested in we call UFOs and what's

2742
02:20:49,980 --> 02:20:48,070
going on in this world and I don't have

2743
02:20:54,170 --> 02:20:49,990
to have you know full complete answers

2744
02:20:56,840 --> 02:20:54,180
all the time now let me ask Tracy

2745
02:21:01,250 --> 02:20:56,850
a question going back to what Richard

2746
02:21:04,670 --> 02:21:01,260
was just talking about I will say that

2747
02:21:05,809 --> 02:21:04,680
Richard and I have a very open way of

2748
02:21:08,960 --> 02:21:05,819
talking to each other

2749
02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:08,970
and you were there when Richard came I'm

2750
02:21:11,809 --> 02:21:10,770
not going to say about what who that

2751
02:21:15,559 --> 02:21:11,819
that's not the point

2752
02:21:17,630 --> 02:21:15,569
but Richard came up to me recently and

2753
02:21:21,019 --> 02:21:17,640
you were there and he was pretty angry

2754
02:21:26,090 --> 02:21:21,029
he was pretty angry at me and he

2755
02:21:28,729 --> 02:21:26,100
oh yeah of course you do and and he let

2756
02:21:30,349 --> 02:21:28,739
loose right and and I tried to calm him

2757
02:21:33,620 --> 02:21:30,359
down and there was no calming him down

2758
02:21:36,050 --> 02:21:33,630
but we have we will talk to each other

2759
02:21:38,570 --> 02:21:36,060
that way and I was fine with that but

2760
02:21:41,719 --> 02:21:38,580
you saw that now tell me the truth did

2761
02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:41,729
you oh yeah did you pull him aside and

2762
02:21:51,710 --> 02:21:45,840
go Richard what what are you doing don't

2763
02:21:54,320 --> 02:21:51,720
look at Richard won't hand signal I wish

2764
02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:54,330
I could show you what it is because the

2765
02:21:57,979 --> 02:21:56,130
first time you guys were discussing that

2766
02:21:59,840 --> 02:21:57,989
panel I think it got a little bit heated

2767
02:22:02,540 --> 02:21:59,850
as well and he got the hand signal this

2768
02:22:07,219 --> 02:22:02,550
sort of you know okay you guys are up

2769
02:22:09,710 --> 02:22:07,229
here bring it down bring it you know a

2770
02:22:16,099 --> 02:22:09,720
little bit but yeah at contact I do

2771
02:22:18,530 --> 02:22:16,109
remember that and yeah and I think

2772
02:22:22,250 --> 02:22:18,540
you're uncomfortable with it well yeah

2773
02:22:24,349 --> 02:22:22,260
yeah I wasn't comfortable I'm glad you

2774
02:22:25,639 --> 02:22:24,359
both have thick skin and you guys you

2775
02:22:26,809 --> 02:22:25,649
guys can deal with each other like that

2776
02:22:33,790 --> 02:22:26,819
and maybe it's a little bit of a

2777
02:22:36,500 --> 02:22:33,800
Canadian and me I not as good with comp

2778
02:22:38,719 --> 02:22:36,510
directed out you always work it out and

2779
02:22:43,219 --> 02:22:38,729
we did turned out really well

2780
02:22:45,620 --> 02:22:43,229
yeah that was cool I think you to trust

2781
02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:45,630
each other underneath it all so but yeah

2782
02:22:48,979 --> 02:22:47,010
it was definitely an uncomfortable

2783
02:22:55,400 --> 02:22:48,989
moment that's for sure I was like woah

2784
02:22:58,370 --> 02:22:55,410
woah I know yeah let's not go it's not

2785
02:23:02,750 --> 02:22:58,380
get into details yeah too much detail

2786
02:23:05,090 --> 02:23:02,760
but the point that that's what you get

2787
02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:05,100
from somebody that is now standing

2788
02:23:11,150 --> 02:23:07,410
beside you right and

2789
02:23:14,360 --> 02:23:11,160
and you guys are you know like almost

2790
02:23:18,860 --> 02:23:14,370
like a yin and yang right yeah yeah we

2791
02:23:21,890 --> 02:23:18,870
are and I think that you know I leave a

2792
02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:21,900
little bit more I think for him he's

2793
02:23:26,301 --> 02:23:24,210
perhaps a little bit more open and for

2794
02:23:28,610 --> 02:23:26,311
me it always reminds me to be a little

2795
02:23:30,381 --> 02:23:28,620
bit more grounded so you know I'm still

2796
02:23:32,631 --> 02:23:30,391
uncomfortable talking about my

2797
02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:32,641
experiences I'm working my way through

2798
02:23:37,370 --> 02:23:35,610
that I feel comfortable in myself about

2799
02:23:42,110 --> 02:23:37,380
them but I'm still just getting used to

2800
02:23:44,841 --> 02:23:42,120
talking about them in in public but well

2801
02:23:46,580 --> 02:23:44,851
now what everybody wants anymore yes I

2802
02:23:48,830 --> 02:23:46,590
was barely scratching the surface but

2803
02:23:51,920 --> 02:23:48,840
I'm just getting used to talking about

2804
02:23:54,381 --> 02:23:51,930
them but have you the yin and the yang

2805
02:23:59,390 --> 02:23:54,391
it is it's true and I think it's

2806
02:24:01,400 --> 02:23:59,400
actually it's a strength I really

2807
02:24:04,400 --> 02:24:01,410
appreciate that it's challenging at

2808
02:24:07,370 --> 02:24:04,410
times it really is but I think we're

2809
02:24:12,410 --> 02:24:07,380
really good for each other have you had

2810
02:24:20,060 --> 02:24:12,420
an experience together now have you guys

2811
02:24:21,710 --> 02:24:20,070
shared anything we only know we haven't

2812
02:24:26,360 --> 02:24:21,720
had sort of a contact experience but

2813
02:24:29,870 --> 02:24:26,370
richard has been exposed to these really

2814
02:24:31,820 --> 02:24:29,880
unusual dreams that I have so he's just

2815
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:31,830
getting exposed and you know he's

2816
02:24:35,870 --> 02:24:33,930
following through day by day and seeing

2817
02:24:38,060 --> 02:24:35,880
what my life is like I have to just say

2818
02:24:39,770 --> 02:24:38,070
this you guys didn't get a chance at

2819
02:24:41,870 --> 02:24:39,780
Tracy has some of the most unusual

2820
02:24:43,700 --> 02:24:41,880
dreams of anyone like I've ever met in

2821
02:24:46,040 --> 02:24:43,710
my life and in fact she's had other

2822
02:24:47,420 --> 02:24:46,050
friends like experienced friends have

2823
02:24:50,810 --> 02:24:47,430
said the same thing to her Tracy's

2824
02:24:53,570 --> 02:24:50,820
dreams are almost like future future

2825
02:24:55,700 --> 02:24:53,580
tech dreams like you're gonna have to

2826
02:24:58,341 --> 02:24:55,710
talk to her about this sometime like the

2827
02:25:01,820 --> 02:24:58,351
the most interesting bizarre but like

2828
02:25:05,150 --> 02:25:01,830
fascinating convoluted but like

2829
02:25:08,631 --> 02:25:05,160
consistent narrative dreams like I don't

2830
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:08,641
have dreams like this and and it

2831
02:25:13,190 --> 02:25:11,610
actually has prompted her to she's done

2832
02:25:16,190 --> 02:25:13,200
and she's actually doing research right

2833
02:25:17,420 --> 02:25:16,200
now into what she's calling contact

2834
02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:17,430
dreams and

2835
02:25:22,250 --> 02:25:20,130
of varying levels of vividness from you

2836
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:22,260
know your ordinary dream - higher higher

2837
02:25:28,100 --> 02:25:24,810
levels of immediacy to those dreams that

2838
02:25:30,530 --> 02:25:28,110
you know are not dreams and and I think

2839
02:25:33,530 --> 02:25:30,540
it's fair to say she's going down that

2840
02:25:34,490 --> 02:25:33,540
path because of her own history her

2841
02:25:36,710 --> 02:25:34,500
lifetime of it

2842
02:25:40,370 --> 02:25:36,720
no as they're highly unusual dreams is

2843
02:25:42,080 --> 02:25:40,380
there a way Richard I'm sure you guys

2844
02:25:46,430 --> 02:25:42,090
have discussed this but let's talk about

2845
02:25:51,410 --> 02:25:46,440
it publicly is there a way that her

2846
02:25:54,380 --> 02:25:51,420
remote viewing could assist you in your

2847
02:25:59,450 --> 02:25:54,390
own publications such as maybe false

2848
02:26:01,790 --> 02:25:59,460
flags or I would say about that remember

2849
02:26:04,970 --> 02:26:01,800
the the there was the old TV show Law &

2850
02:26:06,650 --> 02:26:04,980
Order yes and and there would often be

2851
02:26:09,650 --> 02:26:06,660
evidence that would be submitted but it

2852
02:26:11,420 --> 02:26:09,660
wasn't admissible but but the the

2853
02:26:14,420 --> 02:26:11,430
lawyers would still use it as leads

2854
02:26:18,020 --> 02:26:14,430
because they knew it was true right so

2855
02:26:21,200 --> 02:26:18,030
like my attitude would be like I would

2856
02:26:23,290 --> 02:26:21,210
not as as a historian of false legs or

2857
02:26:26,470 --> 02:26:23,300
of UFOs of that matter I would not

2858
02:26:31,520 --> 02:26:26,480
probably confidently use remote viewed

2859
02:26:33,950 --> 02:26:31,530
intelligence for my information although

2860
02:26:36,200 --> 02:26:33,960
you know look I've written about remote

2861
02:26:39,260 --> 02:26:36,210
viewing by people like Ingo Swann and

2862
02:26:41,990 --> 02:26:39,270
mcmoneagle and it's not it's not

2863
02:26:42,860 --> 02:26:42,000
necessarily like ruled out but it would

2864
02:26:45,290 --> 02:26:42,870
have to be under the right conditions

2865
02:26:48,170 --> 02:26:45,300
but what I what I would be interested to

2866
02:26:50,360 --> 02:26:48,180
do if the remote view were done in a

2867
02:26:51,410 --> 02:26:50,370
targeted way like that is just see what

2868
02:26:52,820 --> 02:26:51,420
see what comes up

2869
02:26:54,290 --> 02:26:52,830
I just want to add something here

2870
02:26:58,430 --> 02:26:54,300
there's a bit of a problem with that

2871
02:27:03,080 --> 02:26:58,440
because the target has to be a blind

2872
02:27:05,420 --> 02:27:03,090
target otherwise the ego can get

2873
02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:05,430
involved the left brain can get involved

2874
02:27:12,770 --> 02:27:09,810
guessing can get involved so at least

2875
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:12,780
for me the most successful remote views

2876
02:27:21,530 --> 02:27:16,530
and the most confident I am in remote

2877
02:27:25,310 --> 02:27:21,540
users when I have zero information so X

2878
02:27:26,780 --> 02:27:25,320
is perfect with the intent but help so

2879
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:26,790
this is why it's kind of funny you know

2880
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:28,080
people have said this to me before oh

2881
02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:30,210
why don't you help her to do this so why

2882
02:27:33,261 --> 02:27:31,050
don't you just

2883
02:27:36,620 --> 02:27:33,271
choose the moon and remote view it it

2884
02:27:39,370 --> 02:27:36,630
kind of doesn't work like that no all of

2885
02:27:42,410 --> 02:27:39,380
all of the information that is

2886
02:27:44,511 --> 02:27:42,420
pre-loaded in your mind then comes into

2887
02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:44,521
play we could have someone give you the

2888
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:45,690
assignment and you just wouldn't know

2889
02:27:52,580 --> 02:27:48,690
yeah yeah it could be it could be the

2890
02:27:53,360 --> 02:27:52,590
USS Pablo right in an envelope yeah and

2891
02:27:57,310 --> 02:27:53,370
go from there

2892
02:27:59,870 --> 02:27:57,320
no a week we actually we should try that

2893
02:28:02,180 --> 02:27:59,880
I'm thinking we should we'll have like

2894
02:28:04,100 --> 02:28:02,190
I'd be happy to see us like we would

2895
02:28:05,390 --> 02:28:04,110
have to disguise it I mean you'd have to

2896
02:28:10,370 --> 02:28:05,400
and you know now we're sitting here

2897
02:28:12,910 --> 02:28:10,380
talking about we could you see what I'm

2898
02:28:16,341 --> 02:28:12,920
saying the problem with it it has to be

2899
02:28:18,980 --> 02:28:16,351
like a blind remote view we can take

2900
02:28:20,240 --> 02:28:18,990
care of the blind part we'll take care

2901
02:28:22,131 --> 02:28:20,250
of that yeah we can take care of that

2902
02:28:23,720 --> 02:28:22,141
ability I think you guys are sitting

2903
02:28:26,540 --> 02:28:23,730
here talking about it or anything but

2904
02:28:28,070 --> 02:28:26,550
alright one thing I just I wanted to

2905
02:28:29,600 --> 02:28:28,080
mention about because I've talked with

2906
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:29,610
Tracy about a remote fuse for a long

2907
02:28:39,430 --> 02:28:34,290
time she did hundreds of professionally

2908
02:28:41,690 --> 02:28:39,440
like sort of set up remote views with

2909
02:28:45,020 --> 02:28:41,700
with Paul elder of the Monroe Institute

2910
02:28:47,301 --> 02:28:45,030
and she was like an athlete like she did

2911
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:47,311
this for years like how many was doing

2912
02:28:52,461 --> 02:28:49,290
six targets twice a week for two years

2913
02:28:55,750 --> 02:28:52,471
straight oh yeah I was I was really

2914
02:28:59,270 --> 02:28:55,760
really into it I I wanted to I wanted to

2915
02:29:02,091 --> 02:28:59,280
see where I could go with it it's like a

2916
02:29:04,430 --> 02:29:02,101
muscle exercising it you'd have hot

2917
02:29:06,801 --> 02:29:04,440
streaks and cold streaks yeah yeah this

2918
02:29:09,320 --> 02:29:06,811
is what I I've often said like wow I

2919
02:29:11,270 --> 02:29:09,330
really understand the the hot streak

2920
02:29:13,671 --> 02:29:11,280
cold cold straight thing like baseball

2921
02:29:16,220 --> 02:29:13,681
players for example because it's all

2922
02:29:19,690 --> 02:29:16,230
this interplay with your your left

2923
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:19,700
monkey mind you know you could be

2924
02:29:23,330 --> 02:29:21,690
getting your targets getting your

2925
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:23,340
targets getting your targets on this

2926
02:29:27,740 --> 02:29:26,130
great streak but as soon as you

2927
02:29:31,131 --> 02:29:27,750
something that you know you get one

2928
02:29:32,990 --> 02:29:31,141
wrong let's just say and then doubt

2929
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:33,000
comes in and then you're doing your next

2930
02:29:38,120 --> 02:29:35,130
remote-view and and that doubt is

2931
02:29:42,620 --> 02:29:38,130
sitting there there's something really

2932
02:29:44,450 --> 02:29:42,630
yeah you get the yips you do it's it's

2933
02:29:47,090 --> 02:29:44,460
and it sticks

2934
02:29:51,860 --> 02:29:47,100
you then you're using your left brain to

2935
02:29:55,969 --> 02:29:51,870
to try to get out of it but then trying

2936
02:29:57,050 --> 02:29:55,979
and overthinking again is sort of left

2937
02:29:58,910 --> 02:29:57,060
and again I'm just gonna say I'm

2938
02:30:01,370 --> 02:29:58,920
oversimplifying the left and right brain

2939
02:30:03,800 --> 02:30:01,380
thing but but for the sake of the

2940
02:30:05,810 --> 02:30:03,810
conversation you know what I mean it's

2941
02:30:08,810 --> 02:30:05,820
fascinating - yeah and you know just

2942
02:30:11,480 --> 02:30:08,820
again to reiterate I my approach to

2943
02:30:13,480 --> 02:30:11,490
studying UFOs or really anything hasn't

2944
02:30:16,010 --> 02:30:13,490
changed in the least when I write

2945
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:16,020
anything or speak publicly on the

2946
02:30:20,960 --> 02:30:17,850
subject I want to have my facts straight

2947
02:30:22,640 --> 02:30:20,970
I want to be confident in the factual

2948
02:30:24,500 --> 02:30:22,650
chronology of whatever it is I'm talking

2949
02:30:27,290 --> 02:30:24,510
about but it doesn't mean that I don't

2950
02:30:29,900 --> 02:30:27,300
recognize we live in a crazy world that

2951
02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:29,910
is that's got a reality that's far

2952
02:30:37,190 --> 02:30:33,930
beyond you know our ordinary consensus

2953
02:30:39,520 --> 02:30:37,200
reality and and Tracy is one of many

2954
02:30:42,530 --> 02:30:39,530
people who's living proof of that now

2955
02:30:44,930 --> 02:30:42,540
really quick I can't get out of here

2956
02:30:46,430 --> 02:30:44,940
Richard without well first I want to

2957
02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:46,440
thank Tracy for coming on tonight

2958
02:30:51,770 --> 02:30:49,290
absolutely fascinating conversation and

2959
02:30:53,870 --> 02:30:51,780
I can't wait till she's on with us again

2960
02:30:57,710 --> 02:30:53,880
there's so much more to explore but

2961
02:30:59,330 --> 02:30:57,720
what's going on with the book by the

2962
02:31:01,820 --> 02:30:59,340
book you mean the false flag but yes

2963
02:31:06,440 --> 02:31:01,830
it's wonderful it could not go but be

2964
02:31:09,170 --> 02:31:06,450
going better and it's a true answer it's

2965
02:31:13,219 --> 02:31:09,180
going very well okay so we can't expect

2966
02:31:17,030 --> 02:31:13,229
it we can expect it in 2019 yeah most

2967
02:31:19,820 --> 02:31:17,040
likely it's going to be it's going to be

2968
02:31:22,460 --> 02:31:19,830
a book that I am so looking forward to

2969
02:31:25,430 --> 02:31:22,470
completing and my head is in the game

2970
02:31:27,590 --> 02:31:25,440
and it'll it'll be done when it's done

2971
02:31:30,830 --> 02:31:27,600
my friend okay alright and there were

2972
02:31:35,290 --> 02:31:30,840
none when it is done one last question

2973
02:31:38,240 --> 02:31:35,300
has Tracy changed your musical tastes oh

2974
02:31:43,370 --> 02:31:38,250
well yeah we she's enhanced my love for

2975
02:31:47,180 --> 02:31:43,380
disco yeah which is my ex quest it has

2976
02:31:49,610 --> 02:31:47,190
been enhanced okay she's gotten me more

2977
02:31:52,370 --> 02:31:49,620
into it oh yeah we definitely other than

2978
02:31:53,719 --> 02:31:52,380
our disco love our mutual disco love you

2979
02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:53,729
know we have all these different things

2980
02:31:58,250 --> 02:31:55,050
that we were into so it's been this

2981
02:32:01,219 --> 02:31:58,260
wonderful merging and

2982
02:32:03,320 --> 02:32:01,229
expanded eclectic I haven't gotten into

2983
02:32:05,300 --> 02:32:03,330
Led Zeppelin yet that for her she's a

2984
02:32:11,120 --> 02:32:05,310
little to you that was always called

2985
02:32:12,380 --> 02:32:11,130
older brother music music that's what we

2986
02:32:15,050 --> 02:32:12,390
called it Tracy

2987
02:32:17,000 --> 02:32:15,060
you have to sit and watch the song

2988
02:32:19,820 --> 02:32:17,010
remains the same from beginning to end

2989
02:32:20,929 --> 02:32:19,830
with Richard that's what you have to do

2990
02:32:23,269 --> 02:32:20,939
Richard what was the last song you

2991
02:32:24,769 --> 02:32:23,279
listened to today oh that's an easy one

2992
02:32:26,780 --> 02:32:24,779
we both were listening to together how

2993
02:32:29,809 --> 02:32:26,790
about you do the honors it was more than

2994
02:32:32,679 --> 02:32:29,819
a woman by the Bee Gees Oh doesn't get

2995
02:32:34,690 --> 02:32:32,689
any better than that it's really true

2996
02:32:37,820 --> 02:32:34,700
doing our own little Barry Gibb

2997
02:32:41,450 --> 02:32:37,830
throughout oh when one day you're not

2998
02:32:43,880 --> 02:32:41,460
going to hear no one day Richard you'll

2999
02:32:47,059 --> 02:32:43,890
hear me do my Barry Gibb oh I wanted say

3000
02:32:50,929 --> 02:32:47,069
welcome people Tracey what did you think

3001
02:32:53,300 --> 02:32:50,939
when Richard and I harm on eyes singing

3002
02:32:54,320 --> 02:32:53,310
happy birthday to George Noory wasn't

3003
02:32:59,480 --> 02:32:54,330
that amazing

3004
02:33:01,639 --> 02:32:59,490
I happy birthday yes that was it you

3005
02:33:04,910 --> 02:33:01,649
guys have this whole other area of

3006
02:33:07,550 --> 02:33:04,920
talent yeah I shocked myself actually

3007
02:33:09,860 --> 02:33:07,560
you sounded so good I think we need to

3008
02:33:12,139 --> 02:33:09,870
post that oh it's out there somewhere

3009
02:33:16,040 --> 02:33:12,149
thank you you too I needed like powder

3010
02:33:18,170 --> 02:33:16,050
blue powder blue tuxedo with ruffles and

3011
02:33:20,210 --> 02:33:18,180
mustache and a complete experience

3012
02:33:21,830 --> 02:33:20,220
yeah and mustaches yeah that would have

3013
02:33:25,730 --> 02:33:21,840
been yeah yeah definitely

3014
02:33:27,559 --> 02:33:25,740
hey you guys again congratulations Tracy

3015
02:33:29,540 --> 02:33:27,569
thank you so much for the conversation

3016
02:33:31,790 --> 02:33:29,550
and Richard you're the best you're

3017
02:33:33,230 --> 02:33:31,800
Richard bleep in Doland thank you too so

3018
02:33:36,800 --> 02:33:33,240
much thanks Jimmy

3019
02:33:40,130 --> 02:33:36,810
enjoy the rest of your night Richard and

3020
02:33:43,809 --> 02:33:40,140
Tracy Dolan right there the big reveal

3021
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:43,819
thank you so much Tracy and of course

3022
02:33:49,309 --> 02:33:47,040
Tracy's info and everything is is over

3023
02:33:51,290 --> 02:33:49,319
at Richard Dolan press and they've also

3024
02:33:54,800 --> 02:33:51,300
got some other new stuff going on over

3025
02:33:56,570 --> 02:33:54,810
there too as well there you go great

3026
02:33:59,360 --> 02:33:56,580
conversation the big reveal tonight

3027
02:33:59,960 --> 02:33:59,370
Tracy Garbett and Richard bleep and

3028
02:34:01,760 --> 02:33:59,970
Dolan

3029
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:01,770
I'm your host Jimmy church this is fade

3030
02:34:04,429 --> 02:34:03,450
to black I'm going to get out of here

3031
02:34:06,439 --> 02:34:04,439
and come back and

3032
02:34:11,160 --> 02:34:06,449
open up the phone lines for all of you

3033
02:34:23,130 --> 02:34:19,560
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02:36:50,330 --> 02:36:47,851
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3113
02:38:07,700 --> 02:38:04,310
kera radio.com this is kjc our Jimmy

3114
02:38:07,710 --> 02:38:21,439
[Music]

3115
02:38:26,959 --> 02:38:23,159
all right welcome back

3116
02:38:30,119 --> 02:38:26,969
fade to black that was fun

3117
02:38:33,599 --> 02:38:30,129
Tracy Garvin and Richard bleep and Dolan

3118
02:38:36,179 --> 02:38:33,609
it's Tracy Garbett Dolan by the way now

3119
02:38:38,399 --> 02:38:36,189
you know all right I'm going to open up

3120
02:38:42,300 --> 02:38:38,409
the phone lines three two three a two

3121
02:38:46,469 --> 02:38:42,310
five five zero four or five or three two

3122
02:38:49,909 --> 02:38:46,479
three two seven five nine six nine five

3123
02:38:53,059 --> 02:38:49,919
great conversation tonight man just

3124
02:38:58,349 --> 02:38:53,069
fascinating that remote viewing

3125
02:39:00,899 --> 02:38:58,359
experience roof man and and everything

3126
02:39:03,329 --> 02:39:00,909
else too as well Tracy's amazing

3127
02:39:04,739 --> 02:39:03,339
Richard's amazing congratulations to the

3128
02:39:05,999 --> 02:39:04,749
both of them let's go to the phones hi

3129
02:39:09,209 --> 02:39:06,009
you're live on fade to black who's

3130
02:39:12,569 --> 02:39:09,219
calling hey Jamie it's got from the

3131
02:39:15,569 --> 02:39:12,579
Tuscadero hey Scott from a Tuscadero how

3132
02:39:16,859 --> 02:39:15,579
are you good buddy how are you man well

3133
02:39:20,249 --> 02:39:16,869
it's a great night tonight on the show

3134
02:39:23,429 --> 02:39:20,259
do you enjoy it it was really really

3135
02:39:27,959 --> 02:39:23,439
nice actually very nice and what time

3136
02:39:31,889 --> 02:39:27,969
your mind well um I'm an RSC student and

3137
02:39:34,069 --> 02:39:31,899
I have been fir since 1990 Branson

3138
02:39:37,709 --> 02:39:34,079
school of enlightenment right on and

3139
02:39:41,099 --> 02:39:37,719
yeah man and I'll tell you if you want

3140
02:39:44,279 --> 02:39:41,109
to know and learn about creating reality

3141
02:39:46,919 --> 02:39:44,289
and finding out who you are you and Rita

3142
02:39:51,029 --> 02:39:46,929
ought to go there man because you will

3143
02:39:54,889 --> 02:39:51,039
not regret it at all and how long did

3144
02:39:57,599 --> 02:39:54,899
you I'd go through the program for I

3145
02:40:01,889 --> 02:39:57,609
when I was up in Washington State I was

3146
02:40:04,499 --> 02:40:01,899
there I went for probably 10 years of

3147
02:40:07,050 --> 02:40:04,509
consecutive events you know for the most

3148
02:40:09,179 --> 02:40:07,060
part and then and then I left and then

3149
02:40:10,559 --> 02:40:09,189
went on my own thing but what's really

3150
02:40:12,539 --> 02:40:10,569
cool now about the schools that they do

3151
02:40:15,209 --> 02:40:12,549
all these online events that you can do

3152
02:40:17,459 --> 02:40:15,219
and learn through through the internet

3153
02:40:19,050 --> 02:40:17,469
obviously but being there is a whole

3154
02:40:21,090 --> 02:40:19,060
different experience obviously you know

3155
02:40:24,809 --> 02:40:21,100
it's almost like going to James's ranch

3156
02:40:27,749 --> 02:40:24,819
yeah I can I can only imagine what and

3157
02:40:31,039 --> 02:40:27,759
I'm serious about that too as well what

3158
02:40:32,269 --> 02:40:31,049
what attracted you to Ramtha

3159
02:40:35,300 --> 02:40:32,279
what

3160
02:40:38,359 --> 02:40:35,310
was channeling at first was it that or

3161
02:40:41,630 --> 02:40:38,369
was it something else it was more of

3162
02:40:45,559 --> 02:40:41,640
what my mom was into at the time when

3163
02:40:47,840 --> 02:40:45,569
jay-z was doing events before the school

3164
02:40:50,269 --> 02:40:47,850
even started when she was traveling and

3165
02:40:53,029 --> 02:40:50,279
doing events around the United States I

3166
02:40:56,449 --> 02:40:53,039
think for the most part and channeling

3167
02:40:58,819 --> 02:40:56,459
Ram and then when she discovered who he

3168
02:41:00,409 --> 02:40:58,829
was and you know just resonated with her

3169
02:41:02,210 --> 02:41:00,419
and stuff and she had told me hey you

3170
02:41:03,889 --> 02:41:02,220
know you should come and check this out

3171
02:41:09,050 --> 02:41:03,899
you think he might really like it and

3172
02:41:11,119 --> 02:41:09,060
this Matan up until a little bit of

3173
02:41:13,699 --> 02:41:11,129
resistance until like the early nineties

3174
02:41:15,019 --> 02:41:13,709
I think it was 1990 and I finally gave

3175
02:41:17,960 --> 02:41:15,029
in I was like all right oh god let's do

3176
02:41:20,389 --> 02:41:17,970
it you know and and I went up and did

3177
02:41:20,979 --> 02:41:20,399
some events and once I was there I was

3178
02:41:24,439 --> 02:41:20,989
hooked

3179
02:41:30,050 --> 02:41:24,449
enough said yeah yeah totally

3180
02:41:33,130 --> 02:41:30,060
with with the with the viewing did you

3181
02:41:35,479 --> 02:41:33,140
have a natural gift for it

3182
02:41:41,000 --> 02:41:35,489
or was this something that you trained

3183
02:41:46,130 --> 02:41:41,010
to do no no I this was for me it was

3184
02:41:50,989 --> 02:41:46,140
more of you know it's it's it's more of

3185
02:41:53,659 --> 02:41:50,999
a place and you know I there's a book

3186
02:41:58,750 --> 02:41:53,669
that jay-z wrote called the white book

3187
02:42:02,239 --> 02:41:58,760
and it's her story about how she became

3188
02:42:04,789 --> 02:42:02,249
the encounter with her and RAM and the

3189
02:42:09,949 --> 02:42:04,799
whole story behind it all and and stuff

3190
02:42:13,429 --> 02:42:09,959
and and it was it's you know that the

3191
02:42:15,050 --> 02:42:13,439
quick simple term or a phrase of it all

3192
02:42:16,939 --> 02:42:15,060
is like if you want to know who God is

3193
02:42:22,250 --> 02:42:16,949
you look at it in the mirror every day

3194
02:42:25,010 --> 02:42:22,260
kind of thing and so when I went to that

3195
02:42:27,739 --> 02:42:25,020
event it's it's it's it's sort of a bell

3196
02:42:29,869 --> 02:42:27,749
ringer I mean it mean if it resonates

3197
02:42:31,489 --> 02:42:29,879
with you and it clicks you and it makes

3198
02:42:34,369 --> 02:42:31,499
you go oh my god this is it you know

3199
02:42:36,800 --> 02:42:34,379
boom you're golden but if not you know

3200
02:42:40,159 --> 02:42:36,810
maybe perhaps not you know it doesn't

3201
02:42:43,639 --> 02:42:40,169
ring the bell for everybody but it was

3202
02:42:45,950 --> 02:42:43,649
for me and and then ever since I mean I

3203
02:42:48,590 --> 02:42:45,960
I wish I could

3204
02:42:50,480 --> 02:42:48,600
just have unlimited funds and not have

3205
02:42:52,130 --> 02:42:50,490
to work ever again and just go to the go

3206
02:42:54,950 --> 02:42:52,140
back to the ranch and go to events you

3207
02:42:57,230 --> 02:42:54,960
know from here on to Eternity he so much

3208
02:42:59,540 --> 02:42:57,240
it's great well Scott now that you're

3209
02:43:02,150 --> 02:42:59,550
here let me have two because when I hear

3210
02:43:04,280 --> 02:43:02,160
you say this I have to ask the the next

3211
02:43:08,060 --> 02:43:04,290
the natural question you know there's

3212
02:43:11,240 --> 02:43:08,070
been a lot of negative press out there

3213
02:43:13,219 --> 02:43:11,250
too as well about what goes on up there

3214
02:43:15,590 --> 02:43:13,229
and though you know the the word cult

3215
02:43:17,120 --> 02:43:15,600
you know gets dropped in like they do

3216
02:43:20,719 --> 02:43:17,130
with anything you know this show has a

3217
02:43:22,340 --> 02:43:20,729
cult right you know so sir I get that

3218
02:43:26,900 --> 02:43:22,350
but it sounds like you had a very

3219
02:43:29,300 --> 02:43:26,910
positive experience there when you hear

3220
02:43:31,790 --> 02:43:29,310
the negative stuff does the negative

3221
02:43:34,900 --> 02:43:31,800
stuff is it based on reality or is it

3222
02:43:38,540 --> 02:43:34,910
made up or is it just disgruntled

3223
02:43:45,350 --> 02:43:38,550
unhappy people that just want to express

3224
02:43:51,020 --> 02:43:45,360
themselves in a negative way I believe

3225
02:43:54,770 --> 02:43:51,030
that there's no I mean you just if

3226
02:43:57,440 --> 02:43:54,780
you're if you're a true journey person

3227
02:44:01,130 --> 02:43:57,450
of becoming what you want to know who

3228
02:44:04,070 --> 02:44:01,140
you are really you'll know within

3229
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:04,080
yourself I mean I don't think you have

3230
02:44:08,270 --> 02:44:06,810
to just you know shove it off you know

3231
02:44:11,540 --> 02:44:08,280
shrug it off your shoulders and say yeah

3232
02:44:14,270 --> 02:44:11,550
whatever I mean I mean if you're gonna

3233
02:44:17,030 --> 02:44:14,280
know ultimately within yourself your

3234
02:44:19,040 --> 02:44:17,040
truth and your the knowingness and the

3235
02:44:21,680 --> 02:44:19,050
feeling within yourself that is so solid

3236
02:44:25,040 --> 02:44:21,690
that it's like it's unbreakable and

3237
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:25,050
unshakable gym that you will know that

3238
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:26,970
you're like you know what you can throw

3239
02:44:33,740 --> 02:44:29,520
me whatever you want I don't really care

3240
02:44:37,160 --> 02:44:33,750
because this is golden it is solid is

3241
02:44:39,770 --> 02:44:37,170
like the most foundational thing within

3242
02:44:41,480 --> 02:44:39,780
myself that I've ever felt amongst

3243
02:44:45,500 --> 02:44:41,490
anything that I've experienced in my

3244
02:44:47,540 --> 02:44:45,510
entire life you know and and no person

3245
02:44:49,760 --> 02:44:47,550
no place same time or event is ever

3246
02:44:52,820 --> 02:44:49,770
going to get in the way and say you know

3247
02:44:53,030 --> 02:44:52,830
what you should not you know fall for

3248
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:53,040
that

3249
02:44:57,170 --> 02:44:55,920
you know mumbo-jumbo stuff you can just

3250
02:44:58,730 --> 02:44:57,180
look at it you can just look at the

3251
02:44:59,750 --> 02:44:58,740
person or whatever is telling you that

3252
02:45:01,400 --> 02:44:59,760
just laughing's go

3253
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:01,410
yeah whatever and you'll know within

3254
02:45:05,360 --> 02:45:03,120
yourself that your your there your your

3255
02:45:12,230 --> 02:45:05,370
home you know yeah fair enough fair

3256
02:45:18,050 --> 02:45:12,240
enough I have I have I have yet to break

3257
02:45:19,969 --> 02:45:18,060
it out in depth but I have I'm not going

3258
02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:19,979
to say how or when but I have the

3259
02:45:25,340 --> 02:45:24,000
complete ramza collection okay

3260
02:45:28,070 --> 02:45:25,350
I haven't telling you I'm telling you

3261
02:45:30,710 --> 02:45:28,080
man if you if you go there I mean it

3262
02:45:32,660 --> 02:45:30,720
james gilliland has been in his audience

3263
02:45:34,040 --> 02:45:32,670
before he no ask him about him when you

3264
02:45:36,280 --> 02:45:34,050
go to soul tag you'll be like hey you

3265
02:45:39,740 --> 02:45:36,290
know rampa he'll be like oh yeah

3266
02:45:43,460 --> 02:45:39,750
you know I mean I mean these guys are

3267
02:45:44,719 --> 02:45:43,470
one and one alike you know I mean but

3268
02:45:46,730 --> 02:45:44,729
this play this school is definitely

3269
02:45:49,730 --> 02:45:46,740
about you know creating a reality and

3270
02:45:51,290 --> 02:45:49,740
crit in your life and if you you in your

3271
02:45:53,570 --> 02:45:51,300
wife ever have an opportunity to like

3272
02:45:55,610 --> 02:45:53,580
get away for a few days and go do an

3273
02:45:58,820 --> 02:45:55,620
event there and stuff and actually find

3274
02:46:00,710 --> 02:45:58,830
out what goes on and and learn I mean it

3275
02:46:03,889 --> 02:46:00,720
is the coolest thing it is one of the

3276
02:46:05,780 --> 02:46:03,899
best investments you will ever have and

3277
02:46:07,849 --> 02:46:05,790
it's not super expensive and it's so

3278
02:46:10,760 --> 02:46:07,859
worth it man it is so worth it you will

3279
02:46:12,590 --> 02:46:10,770
you'll come back I'd be excited to like

3280
02:46:14,330 --> 02:46:12,600
just listen to your shoulders just to

3281
02:46:18,590 --> 02:46:14,340
see what you have to say like oh my god

3282
02:46:20,809 --> 02:46:18,600
I want to rse know oh my god Oh it'll be

3283
02:46:23,809 --> 02:46:20,819
cool to hear hear the the energy coming

3284
02:46:27,679 --> 02:46:23,819
off you going yeah this is awesome well

3285
02:46:31,130 --> 02:46:27,689
you know I did I did I did meet jay-z at

3286
02:46:35,840 --> 02:46:31,140
contact in the desert and I didn't have

3287
02:46:38,840 --> 02:46:35,850
the opportunity to to sit and talk and

3288
02:46:40,990 --> 02:46:38,850
it got away from me and I'm looking back

3289
02:46:45,500 --> 02:46:41,000
my fans you know she was right there we

3290
02:46:48,200 --> 02:46:45,510
we shook hands and we didn't we didn't

3291
02:46:51,790 --> 02:46:48,210
get a chance to sit down and talk but I

3292
02:46:54,860 --> 02:46:51,800
would like to have her on the show

3293
02:46:57,530 --> 02:46:54,870
either as herself or if she wants to

3294
02:47:00,740 --> 02:46:57,540
come on as and channel rampa for for the

3295
02:47:03,080 --> 02:47:00,750
show I think that would be equally as

3296
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:03,090
amazing but yeah I would like to have a

3297
02:47:07,370 --> 02:47:05,520
jay-z on the show either her aramta well

3298
02:47:08,990 --> 02:47:07,380
you were you and when you were a study

3299
02:47:11,480 --> 02:47:09,000
the first time you guys did the whole

3300
02:47:12,969 --> 02:47:11,490
the table ceremony and stuff and like

3301
02:47:17,020 --> 02:47:12,979
sat in the circle

3302
02:47:22,849 --> 02:47:17,030
right no we didn't do the table ceremony

3303
02:47:27,770 --> 02:47:22,859
it was it wasn't done and and I don't

3304
02:47:30,440 --> 02:47:27,780
believe the reason why it wasn't is that

3305
02:47:34,310 --> 02:47:30,450
particularly were gonna go there but we

3306
02:47:39,139 --> 02:47:34,320
just got behind schedule and we had

3307
02:47:42,170 --> 02:47:39,149
literally 200 people in the room and

3308
02:47:45,410 --> 02:47:42,180
there wasn't there wasn't an opportunity

3309
02:47:48,560 --> 02:47:45,420
or room to do it and we got so involved

3310
02:47:50,179 --> 02:47:48,570
with some other stuff and I think I

3311
02:47:53,240 --> 02:47:50,189
would have to ask James he probably

3312
02:47:56,929 --> 02:47:53,250
wouldn't remember but I think that's the

3313
02:47:59,150 --> 02:47:56,939
reason why it just got away from us and

3314
02:48:01,580 --> 02:47:59,160
I'm kind of glad I didn't do it because

3315
02:48:03,410 --> 02:48:01,590
at that moment I was going through some

3316
02:48:04,060 --> 02:48:03,420
other stuff man I didn't need anything

3317
02:48:07,910 --> 02:48:04,070
else

3318
02:48:09,320 --> 02:48:07,920
it was ya who's really I no worries I

3319
02:48:11,150 --> 02:48:09,330
mean I'm just I'm just the reason why I

3320
02:48:13,400 --> 02:48:11,160
ask is because the energy that comes

3321
02:48:15,620 --> 02:48:13,410
through the room once you do that it

3322
02:48:17,420 --> 02:48:15,630
almost feels like this it feels it's

3323
02:48:19,250 --> 02:48:17,430
very similar in the same it's not more

3324
02:48:22,969 --> 02:48:19,260
empowering when you're there at the

3325
02:48:24,650 --> 02:48:22,979
ranch when if jay-z channels ramps and

3326
02:48:26,030 --> 02:48:24,660
stuff when he comes in it's just it's a

3327
02:48:27,620 --> 02:48:26,040
day and night difference you know if you

3328
02:48:28,310 --> 02:48:27,630
if you ever get the chance to obviously

3329
02:48:30,920 --> 02:48:28,320
you met her

3330
02:48:32,090 --> 02:48:30,930
a couple weeks ago or a week ago and if

3331
02:48:33,950 --> 02:48:32,100
you ever get up to the ranch and then

3332
02:48:36,110 --> 02:48:33,960
when you when his when his energy and

3333
02:48:36,280 --> 02:48:36,120
mine is in the body or when he's you

3334
02:48:39,440 --> 02:48:36,290
know

3335
02:48:41,030 --> 02:48:39,450
mobilizing it it's it's day night

3336
02:48:44,929 --> 02:48:41,040
difference I mean you you'll know you'll

3337
02:48:54,469 --> 02:48:47,330
I don't think I've spoken about this on

3338
02:48:58,340 --> 02:48:54,479
the air but that that night the night

3339
02:49:01,969 --> 02:48:58,350
that if there was going to be the the

3340
02:49:05,990 --> 02:49:01,979
table tipping it would it was that night

3341
02:49:08,719 --> 02:49:06,000
and so anyway I'm there I'm in the zone

3342
02:49:12,260 --> 02:49:08,729
right along with everybody else and I

3343
02:49:13,760 --> 02:49:12,270
have this crazy and I don't know where

3344
02:49:16,790 --> 02:49:13,770
it came from just came out of nowhere

3345
02:49:20,090 --> 02:49:16,800
which I never do religious stuff I don't

3346
02:49:24,080 --> 02:49:20,100
have religious thoughts you know I'm

3347
02:49:26,370 --> 02:49:24,090
talking about hardcore religious things

3348
02:49:30,751 --> 02:49:26,380
I just don't do it right

3349
02:49:33,780 --> 02:49:30,761
Christian or whatever and and this crazy

3350
02:49:38,970 --> 02:49:33,790
so I'm sitting there and I've got my

3351
02:49:41,791 --> 02:49:38,980
eyes closed and this vision this think

3352
02:49:44,700 --> 02:49:41,801
it just comes in right on I'm talking

3353
02:49:48,591 --> 02:49:44,710
right on top of my pupils man just right

3354
02:49:57,001 --> 02:49:48,601
there and it's it's it's bleeping Jesus

3355
02:50:00,680 --> 02:49:57,011
with this four pronged halo very

3356
02:50:04,140 --> 02:50:00,690
definite golden thing very Renaissance

3357
02:50:06,180 --> 02:50:04,150
type of painting kind of thing right

3358
02:50:09,421 --> 02:50:06,190
okay that's and that's what it looks

3359
02:50:11,220 --> 02:50:09,431
like these we've all seen these

3360
02:50:12,780 --> 02:50:11,230
different types of paintings and museums

3361
02:50:14,791 --> 02:50:12,790
and in books and the Bibles and things

3362
02:50:17,430 --> 02:50:14,801
so it's like that it's like some

3363
02:50:20,551 --> 02:50:17,440
Renaissance artist painting thing but it

3364
02:50:23,370 --> 02:50:20,561
just comes right up and stares at me and

3365
02:50:24,961 --> 02:50:23,380
I almost kind of weird all right okay

3366
02:50:27,720 --> 02:50:24,971
and I'm just kind of looking you know

3367
02:50:29,810 --> 02:50:27,730
and the room was quiet at the time so

3368
02:50:33,570 --> 02:50:29,820
anyway this thing goes down and then

3369
02:50:40,350 --> 02:50:33,580
somebody says in the room I don't know

3370
02:50:52,291 --> 02:50:40,360
if it was James but says okay now Jesus

3371
02:50:54,421 --> 02:50:52,301
and Mary are here slow down here pop

3372
02:50:56,220 --> 02:50:54,431
open and they just pop open and I'm

3373
02:50:57,810 --> 02:50:56,230
looking around like did anybody see me

3374
02:51:01,020 --> 02:50:57,820
and I'm kind of tripping out right now

3375
02:51:04,291 --> 02:51:01,030
and I kind of look around and I was like

3376
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:04,301
that I didn't need that you know that

3377
02:51:10,110 --> 02:51:07,840
was that was that was friggin strange so

3378
02:51:12,541 --> 02:51:10,120
I get up and this is back to the table

3379
02:51:14,220 --> 02:51:12,551
tipping I get up and everybody's just

3380
02:51:16,530 --> 02:51:14,230
you know in doing their thing and I got

3381
02:51:20,580 --> 02:51:16,540
out of there I got out of there I walked

3382
02:51:22,350 --> 02:51:20,590
outside I fired up a cigarette my hands

3383
02:51:27,650 --> 02:51:22,360
are shaking and I'm like wow that was

3384
02:51:31,200 --> 02:51:27,660
that was really really yeah well because

3385
02:51:32,791 --> 02:51:31,210
this is Scott this was what is important

3386
02:51:34,830 --> 02:51:32,801
for everybody to understand and I know

3387
02:51:36,421 --> 02:51:34,840
this sounds like freaky-deaky stuff I

3388
02:51:39,390 --> 02:51:36,431
don't care it doesn't matter what people

3389
02:51:42,480 --> 02:51:39,400
think it was my experience but the

3390
02:51:45,301 --> 02:51:42,490
vision part of it happened like five

3391
02:51:47,961 --> 02:51:45,311
minutes before anybody said anything and

3392
02:51:51,060 --> 02:51:47,971
and it was there and it was lasting and

3393
02:51:54,240 --> 02:51:51,070
and I didn't understand I never have

3394
02:51:57,060 --> 02:51:54,250
those thoughts and never I could be

3395
02:52:00,930 --> 02:51:57,070
watching I could be watching the the

3396
02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:00,940
most religious movie or documentary or

3397
02:52:07,110 --> 02:52:05,200
whatever or read a book and those it

3398
02:52:09,810 --> 02:52:07,120
goes away I I never have those thoughts

3399
02:52:12,450 --> 02:52:09,820
and but it happened then it was weird

3400
02:52:15,121 --> 02:52:12,460
man it was weird it was weird and to

3401
02:52:17,400 --> 02:52:15,131
have somebody in the room say that at

3402
02:52:18,480 --> 02:52:17,410
that moment it just freaked me out I

3403
02:52:22,110 --> 02:52:18,490
didn't dig it man

3404
02:52:25,591 --> 02:52:22,120
I didn't dig it I I left I left I didn't

3405
02:52:27,961 --> 02:52:25,601
I'm telling you it was bizarre oh it was

3406
02:52:31,020 --> 02:52:27,971
bizarre I mean I listened to your show a

3407
02:52:39,660 --> 02:52:31,030
lot now I'm dedicated listener almost

3408
02:52:43,081 --> 02:52:39,670
every day and I like listening to jeez

3409
02:52:47,011 --> 02:52:43,091
I'm brain farting sorry uh Jim Gilliam

3410
02:52:48,570 --> 02:52:47,021
is show on on his thing and and and all

3411
02:52:52,051 --> 02:52:48,580
hearing about all the different themes

3412
02:52:54,720 --> 02:52:52,061
and different consciousnesses of these

3413
02:52:56,280 --> 02:52:54,730
beans that come in to where they are and

3414
02:53:00,301 --> 02:52:56,290
stuff and at the ranch and everything

3415
02:53:03,270 --> 02:53:00,311
and and so when you say that about being

3416
02:53:04,801 --> 02:53:03,280
Jesus and and so on stuff I it doesn't

3417
02:53:07,831 --> 02:53:04,811
really surprise me because I mean it's

3418
02:53:09,030 --> 02:53:07,841
just like you know it's you know when

3419
02:53:14,820 --> 02:53:09,040
you're when you're at that kind of

3420
02:53:17,131 --> 02:53:14,830
frequency level and stuff at a person or

3421
02:53:20,070 --> 02:53:17,141
higher than I mean I'm sorry red

3422
02:53:22,410 --> 02:53:20,080
infrared or higher visible light and

3423
02:53:24,390 --> 02:53:22,420
those those frequencies in the fourth

3424
02:53:28,110 --> 02:53:24,400
fifth sixth and seventh levels it's just

3425
02:53:29,700 --> 02:53:28,120
you know everyone is it's like the big

3426
02:53:31,621 --> 02:53:29,710
party everyone's hanging out there and

3427
02:53:33,841 --> 02:53:31,631
it's like that's why we're not there and

3428
02:53:36,390 --> 02:53:33,851
that's that's the struggle of our

3429
02:53:39,631 --> 02:53:36,400
existence and and the evolution of

3430
02:53:41,850 --> 02:53:39,641
enlightenment and becoming something

3431
02:53:44,430 --> 02:53:41,860
more than you know what we've always

3432
02:53:46,381 --> 02:53:44,440
been you know from lifetime after

3433
02:53:48,600 --> 02:53:46,391
lifetime millions and millions of years

3434
02:53:50,581 --> 02:53:48,610
over and over and over you know what

3435
02:53:52,269 --> 02:53:50,591
that's there's there's something to be

3436
02:53:58,239 --> 02:53:52,279
said about that because

3437
02:54:00,630 --> 02:53:58,249
for me where I just like you know I was

3438
02:54:07,109 --> 02:54:00,640
just talking to Richard about this where

3439
02:54:10,149 --> 02:54:07,119
I really enjoy documentaries or I like

3440
02:54:11,619 --> 02:54:10,159
nonfiction I like to read those kinds of

3441
02:54:13,659 --> 02:54:11,629
books and I'd like to do that kind of

3442
02:54:15,340 --> 02:54:13,669
research and that's what I've always

3443
02:54:19,889 --> 02:54:15,350
enjoyed in my life and then when you get

3444
02:54:23,710 --> 02:54:19,899
to this others this other side of things

3445
02:54:27,880 --> 02:54:23,720
I'm coming at it from a different

3446
02:54:31,569 --> 02:54:27,890
mindset and one that has always been

3447
02:54:35,189 --> 02:54:31,579
very skeptical and when somebody wants

3448
02:54:38,380 --> 02:54:35,199
to talk to me about Reiki or healing or

3449
02:54:42,039 --> 02:54:38,390
chakras or vibrations or crystals or

3450
02:54:43,659 --> 02:54:42,049
meditation and and these things I've

3451
02:54:47,590 --> 02:54:43,669
always had a difficult time with that

3452
02:54:49,239 --> 02:54:47,600
one I didn't really enjoy it in that it

3453
02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:49,249
wasn't something for me to go and

3454
02:54:54,369 --> 02:54:51,770
research but the other part of me was

3455
02:54:57,369 --> 02:54:54,379
always so black and white and that's

3456
02:55:00,219 --> 02:54:57,379
what I enjoy I just enjoy that that that

3457
02:55:04,300 --> 02:55:00,229
kind of stuff and when things start to

3458
02:55:06,719 --> 02:55:04,310
happen to you like they did with me over

3459
02:55:11,380 --> 02:55:06,729
the years and certainly uh Patti said II

3460
02:55:14,139 --> 02:55:11,390
it opens up your your mind and those

3461
02:55:15,819 --> 02:55:14,149
that are around you that have been

3462
02:55:18,460 --> 02:55:15,829
around me that talked to me about these

3463
02:55:21,609 --> 02:55:18,470
things now I have to listen you know now

3464
02:55:24,069 --> 02:55:21,619
I have because I can appreciate where

3465
02:55:25,960 --> 02:55:24,079
they are coming from it's it's a

3466
02:55:28,389 --> 02:55:25,970
different type of experience and it's

3467
02:55:31,389 --> 02:55:28,399
it's you know I don't really care what

3468
02:55:34,599 --> 02:55:31,399
people think anymore I really really

3469
02:55:36,760 --> 02:55:34,609
don't I'm not saying that I had some

3470
02:55:39,639 --> 02:55:36,770
religious experience I'm saying that the

3471
02:55:42,069 --> 02:55:39,649
synchronicity of what happened to me

3472
02:55:45,729 --> 02:55:42,079
there this strange vision the strange

3473
02:55:48,579 --> 02:55:45,739
thing that was very real on on my

3474
02:55:51,099 --> 02:55:48,589
eyelids and then a few minutes later to

3475
02:55:54,010 --> 02:55:51,109
have somebody say that I just got a walk

3476
02:55:55,949 --> 02:55:54,020
away I kind of walk away yeah I can't I

3477
02:55:59,500 --> 02:55:55,959
don't know if I would go back and

3478
02:56:03,039 --> 02:55:59,510
intentionally try to do it it freaked me

3479
02:56:04,750 --> 02:56:03,049
out that much you know I you know I had

3480
02:56:05,371 --> 02:56:04,760
the little singular experience I know

3481
02:56:08,940 --> 02:56:05,381
that there's

3482
02:56:11,491 --> 02:56:08,950
than going on alright okay all right so

3483
02:56:13,321 --> 02:56:11,501
I just had to just kind of walk away and

3484
02:56:16,261 --> 02:56:13,331
think about it you know that's what you

3485
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:16,271
have to do you have to just go okay what

3486
02:56:20,940 --> 02:56:18,730
yeah you know you know Jimmy it's your

3487
02:56:23,640 --> 02:56:20,950
experience man it's your know it's your

3488
02:56:25,201 --> 02:56:23,650
it's your truth it's it doesn't really

3489
02:56:27,150 --> 02:56:25,211
matter what I think or anyone else

3490
02:56:30,720 --> 02:56:27,160
thinks you know it within yourself and

3491
02:56:33,661 --> 02:56:30,730
it's like you can you can feel good

3492
02:56:36,301 --> 02:56:33,671
about within yourself going right on man

3493
02:56:38,970 --> 02:56:36,311
that was my trip there my ideal

3494
02:56:40,831 --> 02:56:38,980
that's exactly solidified in your

3495
02:56:43,411 --> 02:56:40,841
knowingness and acceptance of it and

3496
02:56:45,720 --> 02:56:43,421
doesn't and that's it you don't have to

3497
02:56:48,211 --> 02:56:45,730
like let the world know about it I mean

3498
02:56:50,430 --> 02:56:48,221
that's your that's your soulful thing

3499
02:56:53,041 --> 02:56:50,440
going this is month this is that was

3500
02:56:55,650 --> 02:56:53,051
Jimmy church's trip and nice right on I

3501
02:56:58,171 --> 02:56:55,660
I did it I mean right you for the lark

3502
02:57:00,390 --> 02:56:58,181
out of my being and thank you thank you

3503
02:57:02,791 --> 02:57:00,400
for allowing me to be a participant of

3504
02:57:07,980 --> 02:57:02,801
it you know and then be solved with it

3505
02:57:10,020 --> 02:57:07,990
you know well and Ian if when when as as

3506
02:57:11,970 --> 02:57:10,030
I went through that weekend up there at

3507
02:57:14,161 --> 02:57:11,980
he said he now this wasn't I've had

3508
02:57:19,321 --> 02:57:14,171
other things happen in my life right but

3509
02:57:22,921 --> 02:57:19,331
the the the singular experience of Zhi

3510
02:57:24,831 --> 02:57:22,931
Sethi and I've said this enough now it

3511
02:57:29,610 --> 02:57:24,841
was for me

3512
02:57:31,770 --> 02:57:29,620
overwhelming it was too much and all of

3513
02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:31,780
it it's just like this experience I just

3514
02:57:38,911 --> 02:57:34,240
told you about none of it was in my

3515
02:57:41,461 --> 02:57:38,921
control and not not none of it I didn't

3516
02:57:44,281 --> 02:57:41,471
go and try it I didn't try to kick it

3517
02:57:45,991 --> 02:57:44,291
off I didn't have somebody that no it

3518
02:57:47,610 --> 02:57:46,001
wasn't about any of that each one of

3519
02:57:50,671 --> 02:57:47,620
those things that happened up there

3520
02:57:53,400 --> 02:57:50,681
whether it was the UFO sightings or that

3521
02:57:55,951 --> 02:57:53,410
crazy my ring disappearing in the fairy

3522
02:57:57,930 --> 02:57:55,961
story or or what happened to me in the

3523
02:58:01,741 --> 02:57:57,940
medicine wheel or this thing it was just

3524
02:58:04,230 --> 02:58:01,751
like one thing after another and after a

3525
02:58:05,640 --> 02:58:04,240
certain point we had that door open up

3526
02:58:09,930 --> 02:58:05,650
on the mountain you know is this like

3527
02:58:14,850 --> 02:58:09,940
crazy stuff I was like dad we need to

3528
02:58:16,261 --> 02:58:14,860
slow this down this is a bit it was fine

3529
02:58:17,950 --> 02:58:16,271
man it was fun

3530
02:58:20,260 --> 02:58:17,960
God

3531
02:58:23,219 --> 02:58:20,270
never a dull moment man so you guys are

3532
02:58:26,770 --> 02:58:23,229
like just enthralled in the excitement

3533
02:58:29,440 --> 02:58:26,780
24/7 well somebody said the other day I

3534
02:58:31,420 --> 02:58:29,450
don't know I might have been Theresa I

3535
02:58:33,820 --> 02:58:31,430
think she tweeted this all right we're

3536
02:58:36,280 --> 02:58:33,830
all ready to go for you know you know

3537
02:58:38,590 --> 02:58:36,290
all systems are go for Jimmy to go back

3538
02:58:42,400 --> 02:58:38,600
into hit and I'm like you know what yeah

3539
02:58:45,250 --> 02:58:42,410
probably not probably not I'll be the

3540
02:58:46,840 --> 02:58:45,260
observer on this one hey Scott don't be

3541
02:58:50,080 --> 02:58:46,850
a stranger calling into the show man

3542
02:58:51,850 --> 02:58:50,090
great conversation all right Jimmy take

3543
02:58:55,150 --> 02:58:51,860
care of self yeah you too man have a

3544
02:58:57,070 --> 02:58:55,160
great night and if you can now go ahead

3545
02:59:04,660 --> 02:58:57,080
and reach out to jay-z and say you know

3546
02:59:05,430 --> 02:59:04,670
the doors open I'll talk to you man you

3547
02:59:07,900 --> 02:59:05,440
too buddy boy

3548
02:59:09,850 --> 02:59:07,910
great great phone call right there love

3549
02:59:12,340 --> 02:59:09,860
first-time callers man there's nothing

3550
02:59:19,150 --> 02:59:12,350
quite like it I really enjoyed the show

3551
02:59:20,800 --> 02:59:19,160
tonight and my comments earlier at the

3552
02:59:25,230 --> 02:59:20,810
opening of the show I do want to go back

3553
02:59:32,400 --> 02:59:29,610
today myself and Rita and our daughter

3554
02:59:35,010 --> 02:59:32,410
Deana just went through some trauma and

3555
02:59:39,010 --> 02:59:35,020
it's like I said things happen in threes

3556
02:59:41,050 --> 02:59:39,020
and we always hear that comment things

3557
02:59:44,740 --> 02:59:41,060
happen in threes things happen in threes

3558
02:59:48,250 --> 02:59:44,750
thing well okay if that happened all

3559
02:59:52,690 --> 02:59:48,260
three happened to us today and hopefully

3560
02:59:56,380 --> 02:59:52,700
we'll have a have a nice clear path over

3561
03:00:00,400 --> 02:59:56,390
the months ahead now that we got today

3562
03:00:01,780 --> 03:00:00,410
out of the way but I didn't know what

3563
03:00:04,510 --> 03:00:01,790
this show was going to be like tonight

3564
03:00:07,750 --> 03:00:04,520
or if I was even going to do it but I

3565
03:00:09,160 --> 03:00:07,760
chose to do it but also to talk about

3566
03:00:12,730 --> 03:00:09,170
that at the beginning of the show and I

3567
03:00:15,280 --> 03:00:12,740
wanted you to understand that if I

3568
03:00:19,150 --> 03:00:15,290
hadn't have mentioned the three things

3569
03:00:23,650 --> 03:00:19,160
today doesn't matter what they were that

3570
03:00:26,890 --> 03:00:23,660
wouldn't be fair and if later anything

3571
03:00:31,519 --> 03:00:26,900
came out or I slipped up or anything and

3572
03:00:33,800 --> 03:00:31,529
and to think that all of you

3573
03:00:36,769 --> 03:00:33,810
would go wow man I guess things don't

3574
03:00:39,530 --> 03:00:36,779
affect him that that's not cool because

3575
03:00:42,500 --> 03:00:39,540
they do and and I needed this show

3576
03:00:46,729 --> 03:00:42,510
tonight to to just get away from it all

3577
03:00:49,250 --> 03:00:46,739
and and use every one of you for support

3578
03:00:56,630 --> 03:00:49,260
and for a shoulder so thank you for that

3579
03:01:00,219 --> 03:00:56,640
but the other part of it is that I want

3580
03:01:05,719 --> 03:01:00,229
you to understand that even over here in

3581
03:01:09,320 --> 03:01:05,729
in my and Rita's world that things can

3582
03:01:12,889 --> 03:01:09,330
really really be difficult and can go

3583
03:01:16,160 --> 03:01:12,899
south you know and when you are around

3584
03:01:17,660 --> 03:01:16,170
others you never know what's going on in

3585
03:01:21,290 --> 03:01:17,670
somebody else's life and if they're

3586
03:01:22,880 --> 03:01:21,300
having a rough day or maybe somebody is

3587
03:01:25,280 --> 03:01:22,890
being you know a little off but or

3588
03:01:29,389 --> 03:01:25,290
whatever you don't know you know and

3589
03:01:33,320 --> 03:01:29,399
always just stop and think you know and

3590
03:01:39,080 --> 03:01:33,330
and today it was it was rough it was a

3591
03:01:42,920 --> 03:01:39,090
rough one and now in the next 45 seconds

3592
03:01:47,150 --> 03:01:42,930
I'm gonna sign off of this show and go

3593
03:01:50,450 --> 03:01:47,160
back to reality but tonight for three

3594
03:01:53,210 --> 03:01:50,460
hours you allowed Rita and I to escape

3595
03:01:57,590 --> 03:01:53,220
reality and hang out with all of you and

3596
03:01:59,960 --> 03:01:57,600
always remember always remember when it

3597
03:02:03,860 --> 03:01:59,970
gets difficult and when it gets rough

3598
03:02:07,429 --> 03:02:03,870
you have friends you have family you go

3599
03:02:10,700 --> 03:02:07,439
hang out and remember that the Sun will

3600
03:02:12,170 --> 03:02:10,710
always come up the next day and you've

3601
03:02:16,040 --> 03:02:12,180
got a fresh start

3602
03:02:18,200 --> 03:02:16,050
and everything is up to you so remember

3603
03:02:20,780 --> 03:02:18,210
that and with that I'm going to get out

3604
03:02:24,979 --> 03:02:20,790
of here and go face some reality with

3605
03:02:28,610 --> 03:02:24,989
Rita and I am going to do a heavy dose

3606
03:02:30,979 --> 03:02:28,620
of junk food this is fade to black

3607
03:02:33,380 --> 03:02:30,989
I'm your host Jimmy Church I want to

3608
03:02:35,900 --> 03:02:33,390
thank Tracy Garbett Dolan and Richard

3609
03:02:38,139 --> 03:02:35,910
Dolan for coming in tonight an

3610
03:02:41,769 --> 03:02:38,149
absolutely amazing show and I

3611
03:02:43,449 --> 03:02:41,779
hope that you enjoyed the reveal fade to

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03:02:45,250 --> 03:02:43,459
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03:02:47,949 --> 03:02:45,260
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03:02:53,859 --> 03:02:50,829
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03:02:57,159 --> 03:02:53,869
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03:03:00,580 --> 03:02:57,169
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03:03:04,719 --> 03:03:00,590
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03:03:10,960 --> 03:03:10,010
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03:03:13,000 --> 03:03:10,970
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3622
03:03:14,559 --> 03:03:13,010
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3623
03:03:16,840 --> 03:03:14,569
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03:03:18,489 --> 03:03:16,850
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3626
03:03:24,399 --> 03:03:20,569
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3627
03:03:24,969 --> 03:03:24,409
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3628
03:03:29,790 --> 03:03:24,979
tomorrow night

3629
03:03:47,690 --> 03:03:29,800
Fator night open lines all night long